Why We Age and Why We Don’t Have To, with Professor David Sinclair #208

Oct 12, 2021 Episode Page ↗
Overview

Harvard Professor David Sinclair discusses how aging is the root cause of most chronic diseases and can be slowed or reversed. He explains inducing hormesis through habits like skipping meals, eating plants, specific exercise, and hot/cold therapies to activate longevity genes.

At a Glance
35 Insights
2h 17m Duration
23 Topics
7 Concepts

Deep Dive Analysis

Grandmother's Influence on David Sinclair's Career

Understanding Hormesis and Survival Signals

The Importance of Eating Less for Longevity

Intermittent Fasting and Time-Restricted Eating Explained

Longevity Genes and Their Evolutionary Purpose

Three Main Longevity Pathways: Sirtuins, mTOR, AMPK

Aging as a Medical Condition and Future Healthcare Vision

Monitoring Biological Age and Personalized Health Data

The Epigenome and Analog-Digital Analogy of Aging

Evidence for Age Reversal in Animals and Humans

When Does Aging Begin and When to Start Interventions?

David Sinclair's Motivation and Passion for Education

Challenging Perceptions of Old Age and Lifespan

Three Levels of Anti-Aging Interventions: Lifestyle, Supplements, Age Reversal

Dietary Recommendations: Plant-Based and Olive Oil

Exercise for Longevity: Intensity and Muscle Mass

Supplements for Longevity: NMN, Resveratrol, Metformin

Role of Sleep and Stress in Aging

Purpose, Connection, and Loneliness in Longevity

Addressing Criticisms and Societal Implications of Longevity

Future of Age Reversal Technology and Human Lifespan

Cold and Heat Exposure for Hormesis

Final Practical Advice and Call to Action

Hormesis

Hormesis is the principle that 'what doesn't kill you makes you stronger.' It refers to an ancient biological mechanism where the body responds to mild adversities, like cold or hunger, by activating protective systems that fight against decay, disease, and the root causes of aging.

Sirtuins

Sirtuins are a family of seven genes in the human body that act as longevity mechanisms. They are activated by caloric restriction and a molecule called NAD, and their functions include protecting cells from damage, repairing cellular components, reducing inflammation, and boosting memory.

mTOR

mTOR (mammalian target of rapamycin) is a central longevity pathway that primarily senses protein intake, especially branched-chain amino acids found in meat. When highly stimulated, mTOR signals for growth and repair, which is generally at odds with survival mechanisms and can accelerate aging.

AMPK

AMPK (AMP-activated protein kinase) is a longevity pathway that monitors the body's energy levels, particularly sugar. When sugar and insulin levels are low, AMPK activity is boosted, leading to increased mitochondrial function and reduced inflammation, promoting a 'hunker down' survival state.

Epigenome

The epigenome refers to the chemicals and proteins that attach to our DNA, controlling which genes are turned on or off in different cells. This pattern is established during development but changes with lifestyle and age, with aging described as 'scratches' on this genetic 'CD' that disrupt the reading of genetic information.

Xeno Hormesis

Xeno hormesis is a theory suggesting that when humans consume plants that have been stressed (e.g., by drought, sunlight, or pests), these plants produce defense molecules called polyphenols. Ingesting these molecules signals to our bodies that food might be scarce, thereby activating our own survival and longevity genes.

Pseudo Hypoxic

Pseudo hypoxic describes a state in old muscle where it mistakenly 'thinks' it lacks sufficient oxygen, even when oxygen is available. This condition leads to reduced energy production, depletion of blood vessels, and contributes to muscle decline associated with aging.

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What is hormesis and why is it important for aging?

Hormesis is the principle that what doesn't kill you makes you stronger; it's an ancient survival mechanism where the body fights back against adversities like cold and hunger, protecting against decay, disease, and the root causes of aging.

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How does eating less impact aging?

Eating less, or inducing hunger, activates three main longevity mechanisms (sirtuins, mTOR, AMPK) that protect the body against decay, disease, and the root causes of aging, leading to longer, healthier lives.

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What is the difference between intermittent fasting and time-restricted eating?

David Sinclair views these terms as essentially the same, meaning 'eat less often' or 'skip a meal.' The goal is to avoid keeping the body constantly filled with food to activate survival mechanisms.

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Why do we have 'longevity genes' if evolution doesn't care about the elderly?

These genes are primarily 'survival genes' or 'adversity genes' that have kept life forms alive for billions of years. Keeping them active for most of one's life has the side effect of slowing aging and preventing sickness, thus extending lifespan.

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What are the three main longevity pathways and how do they work?

The three main pathways are sirtuins (protect cells, repair, reduce inflammation, boost memory, activated by NAD), mTOR (senses protein intake, signals growth, should be suppressed for longevity), and AMPK (registers energy levels, boosted by low sugar, leads to more mitochondria and less inflammation).

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Why should aging be considered a medical condition?

Modern medicine often treats diseases as separate entities, but aging is the unifying underlying cause for most diseases and disability. Classifying aging as a medical condition would allow doctors to more freely prescribe interventions to extend healthy lifespan.

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How can one monitor their biological age?

Biological age can be measured through blood biomarkers that track with age or through chemicals (methyls) on DNA from a cheek swab, which change based on lifestyle and can be used to track progress in slowing or reversing aging.

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What is the 'analog-digital analogy' for aging?

The genome (DNA) is like the digital music on a CD, and the epigenome (chemicals and proteins controlling gene expression) is like the reader. Aging is analogous to scratches on the CD, causing the music to skip, while age reversal is like polishing those scratches off.

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Can aging truly be reversed?

Yes, age reversal has been demonstrated in animal models (e.g., mice regaining sight, memory) by epigenetically reprogramming cells. Early human trials are showing additive age reversal (e.g., two years younger with one treatment).

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When does the aging process begin and when should one start interventions?

Aging begins at conception. While adequate nutrition is crucial for children, lifestyle changes (like eating less often, exercise) can be adopted in the late 20s and 30s, and even some safe supplements could be considered, as David Sinclair started his program at age 34.

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What kind of diet is recommended for longevity?

A diet that resembles a 'rabbit's dinner' more than a 'lion's meal,' emphasizing plant-based foods, less meat (especially red meat), small portions, and avoiding excess sugar and unprocessed carbs. Olive oil is also beneficial for activating sirtuins.

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How much exercise is optimal for longevity?

A minimum is walking and moving, but optimal includes high-intensity exercise, such as losing your breath for 10 minutes a few times a week, which helps reset muscle oxygen sensing and improves long-term health.

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How does sleep impact aging?

Sleep is directly connected to the clock of aging; insufficient sleep raises cortisol levels and accelerates aging. The sirtuin enzyme (Cert One), central to health and longevity, also controls the body's sleep-wake cycle, meaning good sleep supports longevity and vice-versa.

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What is the impact of chronic stress on aging?

Chronic stress can negatively impact the biological clock. Actively reducing stress, finding purpose, and focusing on positive aspects of life are strategies to cope and prevent accelerated aging, as David Sinclair has learned to manage his own high-stress life.

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What are the societal implications of humans living much longer?

While concerns about overpopulation exist, mathematical models suggest population growth will level out. Extending healthy lifespan could significantly boost the global economy, providing resources to solve major world problems like climate change and education, rather than squandering money on end-of-life care.

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How do cold and heat exposure contribute to longevity?

Both cold and heat can induce hormesis. Saunas (heat) have evidence for reducing cardiovascular disease, likely by inducing heat shock proteins. Cold exposure induces brown fat, which is metabolically healthy, burns energy, and secretes beneficial molecules, and also induces sirtuin number three.

1. Quit Smoking Immediately

Cease smoking using any available method, as it is the fastest way to accelerate your epigenetic clock, severely damaging your health and significantly increasing the risk of diseases like lung cancer.

2. Live Healthy for Family

Take responsibility for your health and longevity, not just for yourself, but for your children and family, to avoid being a burden and to be present in their lives for longer.

3. Adopt Core Longevity Practices

Implement fundamental practices such as not smoking, moderating alcohol, eating healthy and less often, getting good sleep, managing stress, and exercising regularly to add at least 15 healthy years to your life.

4. Induce Hormesis for Longevity

Engage in simple habits like skipping meals, eating more plants, certain types of exercise, and hot-cold therapies to create adversity that switches on the body’s longevity genes.

5. Eat Less Often

Reduce the frequency of eating by skipping meals and snacks to activate longevity genes (sirtuins, mTOR, AMPK) and promote the body’s protective and repair mechanisms.

6. Prioritize Eating Window

Focus on when you eat, rather than what you eat, by consuming food within a restricted time window to significantly extend lifespan, as observed in animal studies.

7. Start Fasting Incrementally

Begin intermittent fasting by skipping just one meal (dinner or breakfast) and gradually increase the fasting duration as your body adapts, rather than attempting extreme protocols from the start.

8. David Sinclair’s 22-Hour Fast

Consider fasting for approximately 22 hours daily, consuming only water, tea, or coffee, and then having one reasonable meal at dinner, avoiding overeating to ensure better sleep and sustained energy.

9. Adapt to Fasting Gradually

Commit to a fasting routine for three to four weeks, using willpower and hot beverages to manage hunger, allowing your body to adapt and make the new eating pattern feel natural.

10. Eat a Plant-Dominant Diet

Structure your diet to be predominantly plant-based, resembling a ‘rabbit’s dinner,’ and if consuming meat, opt for small portions of fish, shellfish, or chicken, with very rare and limited red meat.

11. Choose Stressed, Colorful Plants

Opt for organic, locally grown, or home-grown plants that have been exposed to environmental stressors (e.g., thirst, sunlight, pests), as these ‘stressed out’ plants produce more defense molecules (polyphenols) and color, benefiting your health through xeno-hormesis.

12. Avoid Sugar Spikes

Minimize excess sugar and unprocessed carbohydrates, found even in sauces and dressings, to prevent blood sugar spikes that shut down the body’s defenses; consider using a continuous glucose monitor to understand your body’s response to food.

13. Perform High-Intensity Exercise

Engage in high-intensity exercise that makes you lose your breath for at least 10 minutes a few times a week to achieve significant long-term health and longevity benefits.

14. Build and Maintain Muscle Mass

Incorporate weightlifting and standing more throughout the day to build and maintain muscle mass, which is crucial for preventing age-related muscle loss, surviving falls, and supporting healthy hormone levels like testosterone.

15. Prioritize Plant-Based Protein

Obtain sufficient protein primarily from plant-based sources to support muscle building without excessive intake of branched-chain amino acids (leucine, isoleucine, valine) that activate mTOR, which can suppress longevity pathways.

16. Prioritize Quality Sleep

Ensure you get adequate, high-quality sleep, as insufficient sleep elevates cortisol levels and accelerates aging, directly impacting the body’s repair mechanisms and circadian rhythm.

17. Implement Evening Wind-Down Routine

Establish an evening wind-down routine by avoiding emails and stress past 10 PM, relaxing, and using blue light blocking glasses or turning down blue light on screens to improve sleep quality.

18. Actively Reduce Stress

Consciously and actively implement strategies to reduce stress levels, recognizing that chronic stress can negatively impact health and accelerate aging.

19. Cultivate Purpose and Positivity

Actively seek and focus on positive aspects of life, find a purpose, and cultivate excitement for each day, as this conscious effort can combat pessimism and improve mental well-being.

20. Combat Isolation Actively

Proactively counter isolation by connecting with people (in person or online), considering pets, finding new relationships after loss, and pursuing new careers or passions to maintain social engagement and purpose, as loneliness accelerates aging.

21. Use Sauna Regularly

Engage in sauna bathing multiple times a week, as studies suggest it significantly reduces the risk of cardiovascular disease and heart attacks, likely by inducing hormesis and heat shock proteins.

22. Practice Cold Exposure

Incorporate cold exposure (e.g., cold baths) to shock your body, induce hormesis, activate brown fat, and boost sirtuin 3, contributing to metabolic health and longevity.

23. Utilize Biological Age Test

Consider using accessible biological age tests (like the one from drsinclair.com) that use mouth swabs and AI to provide personalized recommendations for slowing down or reversing aging.

24. Consider Metformin (Prescription)

Discuss with your doctor the possibility of taking metformin, a prescription drug that boosts AMPK, which is associated with lower risk of various diseases and longer lives, even for those without type 2 diabetes.

25. Supplement with NMN

Consider taking a gram of NMN (Nicotinamide Mononucleotide) every morning, as it is a precursor to NAD, which boosts sirtuin longevity genes and has been shown to improve health and endurance in mice.

26. Enhance Polyphenol Absorption

Mix resveratrol and other plant polyphenols (like quercetin, physitin) with a fat source like olive oil or yogurt to ensure proper absorption, as they are otherwise highly insoluble.

27. Consume Olive Oil

Incorporate olive oil into your diet, as its components, particularly oleic acid, are known to directly activate sirtuin enzymes, which are crucial for longevity.

28. Consider Sleep Supplements

Explore supplements like L-theanine or a small amount of melatonin to aid sleep, especially if you struggle with falling asleep or maintaining deep sleep.

29. Consult Doctor for Supplements

Always consult and work closely with your doctor when starting any new supplements, even if they are over-the-counter, to ensure safety and suitability.

30. Moderate Alcohol Consumption

Consume alcohol in moderation, with red wine being a potentially better option due to resveratrol, but avoid overdoing it to protect your health and longevity.

31. Avoid Overfeeding Children

Be mindful of overfeeding children with three meals a day plus snacks, as this can lead to calorie overload and obesity, which may have long-term epigenetic effects on their health.

32. Reflect on Mortality

Consciously reflect on your mortality daily to become more cognizant of life’s brevity, prompting you to live each day with purpose, love, and without regrets.

33. Live with Optimistic Urgency

Live each day as if it could be your last, making the most of every moment and expressing love to family, while maintaining an optimistic outlook on a potentially long and healthy future.

34. Optimize Longevity Pathways

Aim to increase sirtuin and AMPK activity while reducing mTOR activity through lifestyle choices to control the processes of aging and promote long-term health.

35. Exercise & Fast for Epigenome

Engage in regular exercise and fasting to positively alter the epigenome, the chemicals and proteins that control gene expression, in a semi-permanent way, influencing how your body ages.

The real underlying process is ageing for most diseases that kill people in most of the world. And we've been ignoring the root cause of these diseases.

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We can reverse ageing. That is an incredible fact.

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Evolution doesn't care about the elderly. Once you've raised your kids, you're pretty much expendable.

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Aging is a medical condition. Admittedly, it's common, but just because something's common doesn't mean it shouldn't be a medical condition.

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You wouldn't dare drive a car without a dashboard, so why do we do that with our bodies?

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If you can truly reverse your age by just one year every year, then things get really, really interesting.

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Don't treat the disease, treat the cause, and make the body repair itself like it was 20 years old again.

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I do live my life like it could be my last, but I have the optimism of someone who can live forever.

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The first human to live to 150 has already been born.

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You don't just have a right to live longer, you have a responsibility to your children to stay healthier for longer, otherwise it's extremely selfish.

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David Sinclair's Daily Eating Protocol

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  1. Skip breakfast and lunch, consuming only water, tea, or coffee during the day.
  2. Have a tiny bit of yogurt in the morning to dissolve a supplement.
  3. Eat a reasonable meal at dinner, trying not to be full to ensure good sleep.
  4. Gradually adapt over 3-4 weeks to allow the body (especially the liver) to adjust to glucose regulation.

Three Levels of Anti-Aging Interventions

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  1. Level 1: Prevention (Lifestyle) - Skip meals, eat a healthy Mediterranean-style diet (more plants, less meat), and maintain regular exercise (e.g., run for 10 minutes a few times a week, lift weights, build muscle strength).
  2. Level 2: Supplements - Consider taking plant polyphenols (resveratrol, quercetin, physitin mixed with olive oil/yogurt) and NMN (1 gram daily), and potentially metformin (every other day, under doctor's supervision).
  3. Level 3: Age Reversal Technology - Utilize advanced gene therapies or other emerging treatments to epigenetically reprogram cells and reverse biological age (currently in research/trials, e.g., eye rejuvenation).
25 years
Duration of sirtuin research by David Sinclair's lab Time spent working on sirtuin genes.
2005
Year SIRTI1 activation by caloric restriction paper published Published in Science, showed SIRTI1 activated by caloric restriction.
Over 10,000 mice
Number of mice in NIH diet study Study on different diets and eating windows.
1%
Annual muscle mass loss for males David Sinclair's age If no intervention is taken.
12 years
Inside Tracker usage by David Sinclair He has been monitoring his blood biomarkers with Inside Tracker.
43 different things
Number of biomarkers measured by Inside Tracker Measured every three to six months.
52
David Sinclair's current age He started his longevity program at 34.
82
David Sinclair's father's age Fitter and stronger than David, started a new career.
50 years old
Age of world champion marathon runner Ken Rideout He is the world champion for his age group and often beats 30-year-olds.
60%
Reduction in heart attack risk from cycling For those who cycle 80 miles a week.
2 weeks
Time to induce Type 2 Diabetes in rats by sleep deprivation Complete sleep deprivation for this duration.
38 trillion dollars
Value to US economy by extending healthy lifespan by 1 year Projected over the next decade.
365 trillion dollars
Value to US economy by extending healthy lifespan by 10 years Projected over the next decade.
10 billion people
Projected global population leveling out Before starting to decline.
Fraction of one percent
US government research budget spent on aging biology Of the total research budget.
80,000
Downloads of David Sinclair's Nature paper on age reversal Most downloaded paper in Nature in the last 12 months.
20 billion dollars
Investment in reprogramming and aging research Private money and sovereign wealth, collected since the Nature paper publication.
3 to 8 weeks
Duration of gene therapy to turn on embryonic genes in the eye Expected time for treatment to rejuvenate the eye.
2024
Expected year for first human patient in age reversal gene therapy For eye rejuvenation.