Why You Are Stronger Than You Think with Ross Edgley #73

Sep 11, 2019 Episode Page ↗
Overview

This episode features swimmer and adventurer Ross Edgley, who discusses how the mind limits human performance. He shares insights on pushing beyond comfort zones, intrinsic motivation, and self-discovery through self-discipline, inspiring listeners to start their own journey.

At a Glance
21 Insights
1h 33m Duration
19 Topics
8 Concepts

Deep Dive Analysis

Ross Edgley's Superhuman Feats and Mental Resilience

Dr. Chatterjee's First Endurance Event Experience

Understanding Central Governor Theory and Anticipatory Regulation

Recalibrating the Mind: Lessons from Roger Bannister and Kipchoge

Emile Zatopek's Training Philosophy and Pain Perception

Adversity Training: Getting Comfortable Being Uncomfortable

The Importance of Barefoot Movement and Cold Exposure

General Adaptation Syndrome: Stress as Key to Adaptation

Expanding Your Circle of Comfort

Self-Discovery Through Self-Discipline: The Yamabushi Okugaki

Intrinsic vs. Extrinsic Motivation and Social Media Influence

Ross Edgley's Great British Swim: Logistics and Challenges

Immune System Resilience and Cold Water Therapy

The Basics of Sleep, Breathing, and Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs

General Physical Preparedness vs. Specialization in Fitness

Concurrent Training and Coexistence of Strength and Stamina

The Mental Aspect of Endurance and Overcoming Adversity

Ethical Athletics and Disconnection from Nature

Ross Edgley's Upcoming Book: The Art of Resilience

Central Governor Theory

Proposed by Tim Noakes, this theory suggests that fatigue is an emotionally driven state used by the brain as an inbuilt self-preservation mechanism to pull the physiological handbrake, preventing the body from reaching complete exhaustion. It's the brain manipulating us to stay safe.

Anticipatory Regulation

This concept builds on central governor theory, stating that our mind sets a perceived limit on our capabilities (e.g., 'I can only run 5K') to keep us safe and prevent exhaustion. The reality is often that we are far more powerful than our mind allows us to believe.

General Adaptation Syndrome

Coined by Hans Selye in 1936, this describes the body's response to stress. Through repeated exposure to stress and stimuli (like small doses of poison or intense training), the body adapts and builds an intolerance or resilience, becoming stronger as a result.

Intrinsic Motivation

This is when an individual is motivated for internal reasons, meaning the process itself is its own reward. For example, enjoying a walk in nature because it feels good, rather than for external recognition.

Extrinsic Motivation

This refers to being motivated by external factors, such as prize money, medals, or social media validation (like taking a selfie for Instagram). While not inherently bad, it may not sustain effort once the external reward is achieved.

Work Capacity

This is defined as the body's ability to perform and positively tolerate training of a given intensity and duration. Building a high work capacity through general physical preparedness allows for faster progression when specializing in a particular sport later on.

General Physical Preparedness (GPP)

A training philosophy focused on building a broad baseline of fitness by teaching fundamental movements like running, jumping, climbing, and crawling. It aims to develop neuromuscular efficiency and basic motor skills before specializing in specific sports.

Concurrent Training

Robert Hickson's theory suggesting that training for both strength and stamina in a single session dilutes the potency of the stimuli. On a molecular level, the body doesn't know what cellular signal to adapt to, making the training less effective for either goal.

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Why do our minds limit our capabilities, especially during physical challenges?

Our minds employ a 'central governor theory,' an inbuilt self-preservation mechanism that creates a feeling of fatigue to prevent us from reaching complete exhaustion. This is an appropriate primitive response, but it often underestimates our true physiological capacity.

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How can we push ourselves beyond our perceived comfort zones?

Voluntarily subjecting yourself to challenges, even small ones, and achieving beyond what you thought possible, recalibrates your mind. This expands your 'circle of comfort' and changes your perception of what you're capable of in all areas of life.

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What is the difference between intrinsic and extrinsic motivation?

Intrinsic motivation comes from internal reasons, where the process itself is the reward (e.g., enjoying an activity for its own sake). Extrinsic motivation comes from external rewards, such as medals, prize money, or social media recognition.

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How can someone who is currently inactive begin their fitness journey?

Focus on adherence by choosing activities you intrinsically enjoy and can stick to, rather than just chasing external rewards. Start with general physical preparedness (GPP) to build a baseline of fitness through basic movements like light cardio, bodyweight exercises, running, jumping, and climbing.

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Can strength and stamina training coexist effectively?

While concurrent training (doing both in one session) can dilute the stimuli for adaptation, a baseline of cardiorespiratory endurance can improve strength by enhancing oxygen and nutrient delivery to muscles. Conversely, strength helps endurance athletes maintain efficient biomechanics and prevent injury.

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How can one maintain motivation during long-term, extreme challenges?

Establishing an 'infallible law' or an unwavering commitment to the end goal (e.g., 'I will not step foot on land until I finish') can override mental tricks and doubts. Additionally, understanding that you may function with reduced cognitive clarity when exhausted helps to push through.

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How does cold water exposure impact the immune system?

Cold water therapy has been objectively shown to slightly but significantly increase white T-cells. Ross Edgley's experience suggests that prolonged cold water exposure, like swimming for hours daily, may contribute to increased immune resilience.

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Why are basic physiological needs like sleep and breathing often overlooked in wellness discussions?

Because sleep and breathing cannot be easily monetized, there are fewer studies and less marketing around them compared to other wellness interventions. However, they are fundamental physiological needs that form the base of Maslow's hierarchy and are critical for overall health and performance.

1. Recalibrate Mind, Expand Life

Voluntarily subject yourself to challenges beyond perceived capabilities to recalibrate your mind and positively impact all areas of life, including work, family, and personal growth.

2. Just Start Somewhere

Begin your journey towards any goal or healthier lifestyle immediately, without waiting for optimal conditions or feeling fully prepared, as starting is the most critical step.

3. Prioritize Intrinsic Motivation

Cultivate motivation that comes from internal reasons, where the process itself is the reward, as this leads to higher achievement and sustained effort, especially during extreme challenges.

4. Embrace Adversity Training

Deliberately engage in ‘adversity training’ to become comfortable being uncomfortable, building mental fortitude and resilience by voluntarily exposing yourself to hardship.

5. Understand Fatigue’s Emotional Roots

Recognize that fatigue is often an emotionally driven state, a self-preservation mechanism from your brain, rather than a true physiological limit, allowing you to push beyond perceived boundaries.

6. Be Your Own Health Architect

Take an active role in understanding and making decisions about your own health, seeking knowledge and tools for prevention rather than solely relying on external help for cure.

7. Define Your Training Purpose

Clearly articulate your training goal in a single, concise sentence to ensure focus, avoid diluting your efforts, and allow your body to adapt specifically to the intended stimuli.

8. Build General Physical Fitness

Establish a broad baseline of general physical preparedness (running, jumping, climbing, crawling, basic motor skills) to build work capacity, which serves as a robust foundation for later specialization in any sport.

9. Progress Over Perfection

Focus on making consistent progress rather than striving for perfection in every training session, acknowledging that non-optimal efforts still lead to improvement and growth.

10. Reframe Stress to Excitement

Consciously reframe feelings of stress or fear as excitement to alter your physiological and psychological response, turning potential dread into positive anticipation.

11. Practice Free Breathing Methods

Explore and practice free breathing techniques, like those taught by Wim Hof, as a universally accessible and powerful tool for improving health and well-being.

12. Master Basic Physiological Needs

Prioritize fundamental physiological needs such as sleep, warmth, and proper nutrition as the essential building blocks for overall health and well-being.

13. Perform When Feeling Worst

Cultivate the mental toughness to perform effectively even when feeling at your worst, tired, or underprepared, drawing inspiration from military training.

14. Choose Minimalist Footwear

Opt for minimalist shoes to allow the intrinsic muscles, ligaments, and tendons in your feet to function naturally, improving movement, balance, and musculoskeletal health.

15. Daily Foot Mobility Exercises

Dedicate five minutes daily to specific foot exercises to improve foot mechanics, which can alleviate issues like back pain and restore proper body movement.

16. Try Cold Showers

Incorporate ice cold showers into your routine to stimulate thermoregulation, improve physiological adaptations, and get comfortable with discomfort, enhancing resilience.

17. Activate Mammalian Dive Reflex

When experiencing cold water shock or gasp reflex, submerge your face in water to activate the mammalian dive reflex, which naturally slows heart rate and reduces blood pressure.

18. Separate Strength and Stamina

Avoid training for both strength and stamina within the same session, as it dilutes the specific cellular signals for adaptation, making your body unsure what to prioritize for optimal results.

19. Integrate Strength and Stamina

Combine both strength and stamina training in your overall program (though not necessarily in the same session) to prevent injury, improve work capacity, and enhance performance in either discipline.

20. Optimize Nutrition for Extremes

When facing extreme physical demands, prioritize calorie density, nutrient density, digestibility, and palatability in your diet to sustain energy, manage health, and ensure consumption.

21. Morning Mindfulness Practice

Integrate a mindfulness practice, such as meditation, into your morning routine immediately upon waking to establish a well-structured start to your day and tick off the ‘mindfulness’ component.

The reality is, is you're so much more powerful than even your own mind allows you to believe.

Ross Edgley

If you voluntarily subject yourself to something and you're able to achieve beyond what you thought that you were capable of, you're able to just recalibrate your mind, its implications for everything throughout the rest of your year, you know, work life, family life, everything, it all changes.

Ross Edgley

Naive enough to start, stubborn enough to finish.

Ross Edgley

I think too often we are heavily marketed, you know, the gym or certain sports, or, you know, they'll say, oh, this is the best way to lose weight. And it's just like, no, no, no, no. You have to start looking at behavioral science. You know, only just an hour understanding adherence. So do, are you actually going to adhere to this way of life?

Ross Edgley

I am just improving work capacity, my baseline fitness. Well, that will improve not just their fitness, that'll improve their cognition, that'll improve their focus, that'll improve every other aspect of their life.

Ross Edgley

We're Royal Marines, we're used to performing at our best when we feel at our worst.

Royal Marines (quoted by Ross Edgley)
1,780 miles
Distance of Great British Swim Swam by Ross Edgley
157 days
Duration of Great British Swim Time taken by Ross Edgley
10,000-15,000 calories
Calories consumed per day during Great British Swim Required to fuel Ross Edgley's swim
1.4 tons
Weight of car pulled during marathon Pulled by Ross Edgley for a marathon
19 hours, 33 minutes
Time to complete car-pulling marathon Achieved by Ross Edgley at Silverstone Race Circuit
14 degrees Celsius
Water temperature during Dr. Chatterjee's swim run Experienced by Dr. Chatterjee in open water
1.8K
Distance swam by Dr. Chatterjee in open water During his first swim run event
9K
Distance ran by Dr. Chatterjee in swim run During his first swim run event
1936
Year Hans Selye coined General Adaptation Syndrome Discovery of stress as key to adaptation
2008
Year International Journal of Obesity meta-study on best diet for fat loss Concluded adherence was the most important factor for weight loss
1.7 grams per kg
Minimum protein intake per kg of body weight per day Recommended for muscle repair and immune function