#054 Vitamin C: Oral vs. Intravenous, Immune Effects, Cancer, Exercise Adaptation & More

May 13, 2020 Episode Page ↗
Overview

Dr. Rhonda Patrick discusses vitamin C's role as an antioxidant and immune booster, covering its bioavailability, optimal dosing for various conditions like the common cold, exercise adaptations, fat metabolism, and brain health. She also explores the therapeutic potential and safety of intravenous vitamin C for severe infections and cancer.

At a Glance
24 Insights
1h 19m Duration
19 Topics
8 Concepts

Deep Dive Analysis

Introduction to Vitamin C and Linus Pauling's Work

Oral vs. Intravenous Vitamin C Bioavailability Differences

General Overview of Vitamin C: Antioxidant and Cofactor Roles

Dietary Sources and Recommended Daily Intakes of Vitamin C

Vitamin C Absorption, Transport, and Genetic Variations

Bioavailability of Oral and Liposomal Vitamin C

Vitamin C's Crucial Role in Immune Cell Function

Vitamin C and the Common Cold: Dosing and Efficacy

Vitamin C's Protective Effects on Lung Health and Respiratory Diseases

Vitamin C and Exercise: Performance, Adaptations, and Immune Function

Vitamin C's Influence on Fatty Acid Oxidation and Weight Management

Vitamin C's Importance for Brain Health and Neurodegenerative Diseases

Intravenous Vitamin C for Viral Infections and Sepsis

Intravenous Vitamin C as Adjunctive Therapy for Cancer

Vitamin C's Role in Fertility and Reproduction

Vitamin C and Cardiovascular Health: Blood Pressure Regulation

Vitamin C's Impact on Inflammation and Autoimmune Disorders

Mechanisms of Action: How Vitamin C Promotes Health

Safety Concerns and Kidney Stone Risk with Vitamin C

Antioxidant

Vitamin C acts as an antioxidant by donating electrons to oxidized molecules, reducing them and protecting critical cellular components like proteins, lipids, carbohydrates, DNA, and RNA from oxidative damage. This process helps counteract oxidative stress, a key contributor to many chronic diseases.

Cofactor

As a cofactor, vitamin C assists enzymes involved in numerous chemical reactions throughout the body. This role supports a wide range of physiological processes, including immune function, wound healing, fatty acid metabolism, neurotransmitter production, and blood vessel formation.

Sodium-dependent Vitamin C Transporters (SVCTs)

These are the primary transporters responsible for the absorption of oral vitamin C (ascorbate) in the small intestine and its uptake into most body tissues. Their function is dose-dependent and can become saturated, limiting the amount of vitamin C that can be absorbed orally.

Dehydroascorbic Acid (DHA)

DHA is the oxidized form of vitamin C. It can be transported into cells via glucose transporters, competing with glucose, and is frequently recycled back to its reduced form (ascorbate) within the cell, particularly in red blood cells and potentially cancer cells.

Liposomal Vitamin C

This is a form of oral vitamin C where the vitamin is encapsulated within lipid particles called liposomes. This encapsulation can enhance its bioavailability, especially at doses higher than 5 grams, leading to higher and more prolonged plasma vitamin C concentrations compared to non-liposomal forms.

Inflammasomes

Inflammasomes are large intracellular protein complexes that detect pathogens and initiate an immune response. Certain bacteria can inactivate inflammasomes by releasing hydrogen peroxide, which may weaken the lung's immune response to infection, a process vitamin C's antioxidant properties might help prevent.

Exercise-induced Bronchoconstriction (EIB)

EIB is a narrowing of the airways that occurs in response to intense physical exercise, often characterized by a significant decline in forced expiratory volume (FEV1). Supplemental vitamin C has shown potential in mitigating some of the symptoms associated with this condition.

Oxalate Nephropathy

This condition involves the formation of oxalate calcium crystals in the kidneys, which can lead to kidney stones. It has been observed in patients with pre-existing kidney impairment who received high doses of intravenous vitamin C, due to oxalate being an end-product of vitamin C metabolism.

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How much vitamin C do humans need daily?

The recommended dietary allowance (RDA) for healthy men is 90 milligrams per day, and for women, it's 75 milligrams per day, though some scientists suggest increasing the RDA to 200 milligrams per day for adults to elevate tissue levels and potentially reduce chronic disease risk.

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What is the difference in bioavailability between oral and intravenous vitamin C?

Oral vitamin C absorption is dose-dependent and saturable, with peak plasma concentrations not exceeding 220 micromoles per liter even with maximum oral dosing. Intravenous vitamin C bypasses these limitations, achieving plasma concentrations as high as 15,000 micromoles per liter, which is up to 68 times higher than oral intake.

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Can vitamin C help with the common cold?

Meta-analyses suggest that vitamin C supplementation of at least 2 grams per day during a cold can decrease cold duration, especially in children. Prophylactic-therapeutic combinations (daily intake plus higher doses at symptom onset) also showed benefits, but therapeutic doses alone at symptom onset had no effect.

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Does vitamin C blunt the beneficial adaptations from exercise?

When taken alone, supplemental vitamin C (400 mg to 3 grams/day) has decreased markers of muscle damage, but some studies, particularly those combining vitamin C with other antioxidants like vitamin E, suggest it might attenuate beneficial cellular adaptations to exercise, such as mitochondrial biogenesis and improved insulin sensitivity.

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Does vitamin C help with weight management or fat burning?

Yes, vitamin C influences fatty acid oxidation (fat burning) and its levels are inversely correlated with body fat. Studies show that adequate vitamin C status is associated with greater fat utilization during exercise and can reduce weight gain in animal models.

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Can vitamin C cause kidney stones?

While some studies suggest a theoretical increased risk, especially in those with pre-existing kidney impairments, large cohort studies found no actual increase in kidney stone incidence with high vitamin C intake in healthy individuals, suggesting the body has compensatory mechanisms.

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How does vitamin C help fight infections?

Vitamin C is highly concentrated in immune cells, protecting them from oxidative damage while promoting their ability to produce reactive oxygen species to kill pathogens. It also boosts T cell proliferation, modulates cytokine levels, and can interfere with viral replication.

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Is intravenous vitamin C effective for sepsis?

Yes, experimental and clinical studies suggest intravenous vitamin C can be an effective treatment for sepsis, reducing the pro-inflammatory state, preserving organ function, decreasing hospital deaths, and increasing ventilator-free and hospital-free days, especially when combined with other treatments like thiamine.

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Can vitamin C improve brain health and reduce the risk of neurodegenerative diseases?

Vitamin C is found in high concentrations in brain regions important for memory and learning, and it's crucial for brain development. Its antioxidant capacity may reduce brain oxidative damage, potentially decreasing the risk of neurodegenerative diseases like Alzheimer's, with studies showing an inverse relationship between vitamin C intake and Alzheimer's risk.

1. Maintain Adequate Vitamin C Levels

Ensure adequate vitamin C intake through diet or supplements, as it is highly concentrated in immune cells (neutrophils and leukocytes) and plays a crucial role as a potent antioxidant, facilitating neutrophil migration and overall function to eliminate pathogens.

2. Consider 200mg Daily for Chronic Disease Prevention

Consider increasing daily vitamin C intake to 200 milligrams for adults, as this level may elevate tissue levels and potentially reduce the risk of chronic diseases like heart disease, stroke, cancer, and metabolic dysfunction.

3. Eat Raw, Fresh Vitamin C Foods

Consume vitamin C-rich fruits and vegetables raw and immediately after cutting or peeling, because cooking and exposure to oxygen can destroy 25% or more of the vitamin C content in foods.

4. Increase Vitamin C if Smoking/Drinking

If you smoke or drink alcohol, you may need higher vitamin C intake than non-smokers/drinkers because smoking increases oxidative stress, and alcohol consumption increases urinary vitamin C losses by nearly 50%.

5. Avoid Restrictive Meat-Only Diets

Avoid overly restrictive diets focused exclusively on meat, as meat is generally a poor source of vitamin C, and such a diet could feasibly lead to vitamin C deficiency.

6. Consider IV Vitamin C for Sepsis

For patients diagnosed with sepsis, consider intravenous vitamin C, potentially combined with other treatments like thiamine, as studies suggest it can decrease the risk of organ failure and death.

7. IV Vitamin C for Cancer Adjunct

For cancer patients, consider intravenous vitamin C as an adjunctive therapy to chemotherapy, as clinical studies suggest it can improve quality of life by reducing fatigue, nausea, vomiting, pain, and appetite loss.

8. Consider IV Vitamin C for Pediatric Myocarditis

For children with viral myocarditis, consider intravenous vitamin C combined with conventional therapy, as a meta-analysis found this approach to be more effective than conventional therapy alone.

9. Consider IV Vitamin C for Prolonged Ventilation

For patients on mechanical ventilation for more than 24 hours, consider intravenous vitamin C, as studies showed it reduced the time spent on ventilation by 18% compared to controls.

10. Prophylactic-Therapeutic Vitamin C for Colds

To reduce cold symptoms and duration, take prophylactic doses of 1 to 3 grams of vitamin C daily over several months, and then increase to a therapeutic dose of up to 6 grams daily at the onset of cold symptoms.

11. 2g Daily Vitamin C for Colds

If you have a cold, supplement with at least 2 grams of vitamin C per day, as this dose showed greater benefit in reducing cold duration compared to 1 gram daily, especially in children.

12. Consider Vitamin C for Low-Level Pneumonia

If you have very low plasma vitamin C levels, consider supplementation to decrease the incidence of pneumonia, as studies suggest it might be protective in such cases.

13. Maintain Vitamin C for Fat Metabolism

Maintain adequate vitamin C status for effective fat utilization and weight management, as low vitamin C levels are linked to decreased fat oxidation during exercise and increased fat storage.

14. Oral Vitamin C for Hypertension

For individuals with high blood pressure, consider taking an average of 500 milligrams of oral vitamin C per day for about eight weeks, as studies showed significant decreases in blood pressure.

15. Oral Vitamin C for Male Infertility

For infertile men, consider taking one gram of oral vitamin C twice a day for two months, as studies showed increased sperm count and motility, indicating improved semen quality.

16. Vitamin C for Endurance Athletes

If you frequently participate in high-endurance exercise, consider supplemental vitamin C, as studies reported 50% fewer colds among athletes who took it.

17. Vitamin C for Exercise Bronchoconstriction

To alleviate respiratory problems caused by exercise, such as exercise-induced bronchoconstriction, consider taking between 0.5 and 2 grams of vitamin C immediately before exercise for two weeks.

18. Screen G6PD Before High-Dose IV

Before administering high doses (40 grams or higher) of intravenous vitamin C, screen patients for glucose-6-phosphate dehydrogenase (G6PD) deficiency, as individuals with this condition are at risk of hemolysis (rupturing of red blood cells).

19. Caution Vitamin C with Hemochromatosis

If you have hemochromatosis or abnormally high iron levels, exercise caution when considering vitamin C supplementation due to its propensity to improve the absorption of dietary iron.

20. Caution Vitamin C with Kidney Impairment

If you have pre-existing kidney impairments, exercise caution with high-dose vitamin C, as it might lead to kidney stones due to oxalate formation, though the risk is low for most healthy people.

21. Avoid C+E for Exercise Adaptations

Avoid taking vitamin C in combination with other antioxidants like vitamin E (e.g., 1g C with 235mg E) when exercising, as this combination might blunt beneficial cellular adaptations to exercise, such as mitochondrial biogenesis.

22. Avoid C+E for Insulin Sensitivity

Avoid taking vitamin C with other supplemental antioxidants like vitamin E (e.g., 500mg C twice daily with 400 IUs E) alongside exercise, as this combination might attenuate exercise-mediated improvements in insulin sensitivity.

23. Liposomal Vitamin C for >5g Oral

If taking oral vitamin C doses higher than 5 grams, consider using a liposomal form, as studies suggest it can increase bioavailability and achieve higher plasma levels compared to non-liposomal forms.

24. Sustain Max Oral Vitamin C Levels

To sustain maximum plasma vitamin C levels (around 220 micromoles per liter) throughout a 24-hour period, take 3 grams of oral vitamin C six times per day, as a single 3-gram dose cannot achieve this sustained level.

Oral and intravenous supplementation of vitamin C, both potentially merit-worthy in different contexts, are in some ways worlds apart in biological activity because of the sheer concentrated increase in plasma levels that happens when you take something intravenously.

Dr. Rhonda Patrick

The brain is kind of greedy. It retains vitamin C during times of deficiency at the expense of other tissues.

Dr. Rhonda Patrick

Who cares if there is a theoretical risk of vitamin C and kidney stones, when in reality, those with high vitamin C intake did not experience any more events of kidney stones than those with lower vitamin C intake.

Dr. Rhonda Patrick
around 80 micromoles per liter or less
Steady-state plasma vitamin C concentration from diet Achieved by eating 5-9 servings of vitamin C-rich fruits and vegetables daily.
220 micromoles per liter
Peak plasma vitamin C concentration from oral intake Achieved with a maximum oral dose of 3 grams six times daily.
15,000 micromoles per liter
Maximum plasma vitamin C concentration from intravenous intake This is 68 times higher than the maximum achieved orally.
25% or more
Vitamin C destruction during cooking and oxygen exposure Applies to vitamin C in foods.
90 milligrams per day
Recommended Dietary Allowance (RDA) for healthy men For healthy adults.
75 milligrams per day
Recommended Dietary Allowance (RDA) for healthy women For healthy adults.
2,000 milligrams per day
Tolerable Upper Intake Limit (UL) for oral vitamin C Amount believed to reduce the risk of GI problems like diarrhea.
nearly 50%
Increase in urinary vitamin C losses due to alcohol consumption Suggests higher intake might be needed to prevent deficiency in drinkers.
approximately 50 micromoles per liter of blood
Optimal blood concentration of vitamin C Concentration necessary to prevent oxidation of LDL cholesterol.
50 to 100 times higher
Vitamin C concentration in neutrophils and leukocytes compared to plasma Highlights the critical role of vitamin C in immune cells.
21%
Decrease in cold duration in adults with 2 grams daily vitamin C Compared to controls in a meta-analysis of clinical studies.
26%
Decrease in cold duration in children under 16 with 2 grams daily vitamin C Compared to controls in a meta-analysis of clinical studies.
50% fewer colds
Reduction in cold incidence among endurance athletes taking supplemental vitamin C Reported in six trials involving marathon runners, skiers, and soldiers.
15% less likely
Reduced risk of developing respiratory conditions with highest blood vitamin C Compared to those with the lowest levels in a study of >19,000 people over 16.5 years.
46% less likely
Reduced risk of dying from lung cancer with highest blood vitamin C Compared to those with the lowest levels in a study of >19,000 people over 16.5 years.
18% less time
Reduction in time on mechanical ventilation for patients ventilated >24 hours given vitamin C Found in a meta-analysis of three trials, two of which used intravenous vitamin C.
7%
Decrease in lung cancer risk for every 100 mg increase in daily vitamin C intake (men) Observed in a meta-analysis of 14 studies comprising over 6,000 lung cancer cases.
58%
Increase in sperm count in infertile men taking 1 gram oral vitamin C twice daily for two months Compared to baseline measurements in a study of 13 infertile men.
nearly 17%
Decrease in C-reactive protein (inflammatory biomarker) in healthy adults with elevated baseline levels Achieved with 1 gram vitamin C and 800 IUs vitamin E daily for two months, similar to statin effects.
44%
Decrease in C-reactive protein levels in female rheumatoid arthritis patients given intravenous vitamin C Compared to levels before treatment in a study of 11 patients.
99%
Reduction in viral production (reverse transcriptase activity) in vitro with vitamin C Observed in infected cells incubated for four days with 150 micrograms per milliliter of vitamin C.