AMA #5: Intrusive Thoughts, CGMs, Behavioral Change, Naps & NSDR

Mar 24, 2023 Episode Page ↗
Overview

This AMA preview with Dr. Andrew Huberman discusses strategies for abstaining from addictive thoughts and narratives. It differentiates true OCD from common usage and offers techniques like a 30-day dopamine reset, journaling for disturbing thoughts, and mindfulness for repetitive thoughts.

At a Glance
5 Insights
23m 26s Duration
8 Topics
3 Concepts

Deep Dive Analysis

Defining Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD)

Distinguishing Clinical OCD from Colloquial Use

Dr. Anna Lemke's 30-Day Dopamine Reset

Defining Thoughts in Neurobiology

Strategies for Repetitive, Non-Disturbing Intrusive Thoughts

Defining Trauma and its Relation to Disturbing Thoughts

Strategies for Disturbing Intrusive Thoughts

The Role of REM Sleep in Processing Trauma

Clinical OCD

True Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder is a condition where engaging in compulsive behaviors does not reduce the intensity or frequency of obsessions; instead, it often makes anxiety worse and disrupts quality of life. This distinguishes it from being merely particular or fastidious, where actions can bring relief.

Thoughts (Neurobiological Definition)

Thoughts are a category of neural functioning distinct from sensations, perceptions, emotions, and behaviors. They are internally generated perceptions that can include data from the past, present, or future, and can be either unstructured chatter or structured by external stimuli or conscious effort.

Trauma (Paul Conti's Definition)

Trauma is defined as an event or experience that fundamentally changes the way an individual's nervous system works, leading to less adaptive functioning going forward from that event. Intrusive and disturbing thoughts can often function similarly to traumas, reinforcing their impact.

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What is the difference between clinical OCD and common usage of the term?

Clinical OCD involves compulsive behaviors that *increase* anxiety and do not provide lasting relief, often disrupting quality of life. In contrast, the colloquial use of 'OCD' often refers to being particular or fastidious, where specific actions *do* bring a sense of calm or comfort.

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How can one abstain from intrusive thoughts that are merely repetitive but not disturbing?

To abstain from repetitive, non-disturbing intrusive thoughts, the strategy is to anchor attention to external stimuli by engaging in activities that draw focus away, and practicing mindfulness meditation to improve the ability to concentrate on a single thing.

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How can one abstain from intrusive thoughts that are disturbing or related to trauma?

For disturbing intrusive thoughts, the approach is to get very close to the trauma by extensively journaling about the specific thought and its details in complete sentences. This process helps reduce the emotional load and diminish the frequency of the intrusive thoughts over time.

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Does Dr. Anna Lemke's 30-day dopamine reset apply to intrusive thoughts?

No, the 30-day dopamine reset is primarily for substance or behavioral addictions. For intrusive thoughts, especially disturbing ones, a different approach involving detailed journaling and processing the thought's content is recommended.

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What role does sleep play in dealing with intrusive thoughts and trauma?

Sufficient rapid eye movement (REM) sleep is crucial for removing the emotional load associated with traumatic experiences and disturbing intrusive thoughts. Striving for optimal sleep, including adequate REM sleep, is an important supportive measure.

1. 30-Day Dopamine System Reset

Abstain from your drug of choice (substance or behavior like social media, video games, sex) for 30 days to reset the dopamine reward pathway, which is effective for most people struggling with behavioral or substance abuse issues and can help with mild or severe depression.

2. Journal Disturbing Intrusive Thoughts

If intrusive thoughts are disturbing, write them out in complete sentences with as much detail as possible, potentially multiple times, to reduce their emotional load and diminish their frequency over time. This process helps turn a disturbing story into a known, less emotionally charged one, akin to trauma therapy.

3. Anchor Attention to External Stimuli

For intrusive thoughts that are merely repetitive but not disturbing, engage in activities that draw your attention away from the thought by focusing on external stimuli, and practice mindfulness meditation for 5-10 minutes daily to improve focus on single things. This helps repetitive thoughts wane and disappear over time.

4. Prioritize REM Sleep for Trauma

Strive to achieve the best possible sleep, ensuring sufficient rapid eye movement (REM) sleep, as it is crucial for removing the emotional load associated with traumatic experiences and intrusive thoughts.

5. Consult Psychiatrist for True OCD

If you experience true Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder, characterized by compulsive behaviors that increase rather than reduce anxiety, seek consultation with a psychiatrist for effective tools and potential treatment.

A person with true OCD will keep cleaning and cleaning or washing their hands or arranging things at perfect right angles, but the more they do it, the more their anxiety goes up.

Andrew Huberman

Thoughts are perceptions that include data from the past, present, or future.

Andrew Huberman

What you're essentially trying to do with a intrusive thought or a trauma of any kind is you're trying to turn a disturbing story... into what is essentially a known but repetitive and kind of old boring story where the emotional load has been depleted.

Andrew Huberman

Strategy for Repetitive, Non-Disturbing Intrusive Thoughts

Andrew Huberman
  1. Anchor your thoughts to some external stimulus by getting into action or activities that draw your attention away from the intrusive thought.
  2. Practice mindful meditation for 5-10 minutes daily, focusing on your breath or the region behind your forehead, to improve focus on singular topics and diminish repetitive thoughts over time.

Strategy for Disturbing Intrusive Thoughts (Self-Trauma Therapy)

Andrew Huberman
  1. Identify the specific disturbing thought or trauma.
  2. Journal about that particular thought extensively, scripting out as much detail as possible in complete sentences.
  3. Repeat the journaling process multiple times if necessary, until the underlying emotions related to those thoughts begin to diminish.
  4. Strive to get the best possible sleep, ensuring sufficient rapid eye movement (REM) sleep, as it helps remove the emotional load of traumatic experiences and intrusive thoughts.