Harnessing Passion, Drive & Persistence for Lifelong Success | Tony Hawk

Episode 135 Jul 31, 2023 Episode Page ↗
Overview

Legendary skateboarder Tony Hawk discusses his 40-year career, intrinsic drive, and how he continuously sets and evolves goals. He shares insights on overcoming severe injuries, financial prudence, and his philanthropic work with the Skatepark Project.

At a Glance
35 Insights
2h 12m Duration
17 Topics
5 Concepts

Deep Dive Analysis

Tony Hawk's Enduring Career and Achievements

Childhood Self-Concept and Discovering Skateboarding

Parental Involvement and Early Skatepark Experiences

Turning Professional and the Bones Brigade Era

Trick Development, Visualization, and Skating Dreams

The Intrinsic Drive and Feeling of Skateboarding

Overcoming a Career-Threatening Femur Injury

Injury Recovery Practices and Modern Medicine

Evolution of Skateboarding: Health and Professionalism

Genesis and Impact of Tony Hawk's Pro Skater Game

Financial Prudence and Starting Birdhouse Skateboards

Professionalism, Punctuality, and Other Hobbies

Kids, Parents, and the Modern Skateboarding Scene

Music as Inspiration and High School Challenges

The Rise of Females in Skateboarding

The Skatepark Project: Philanthropic Mission

Future Goals and Role as Skateboarding Ambassador

Non-Union Fracture

A condition where a broken bone fails to heal or unite after a significant period of time, often due to insufficient stability or blood supply. In Tony Hawk's case, his femur bone did not connect back to itself after the initial break, requiring a second surgery.

REM Sleep Paralysis

A state during rapid eye movement (REM) sleep where the brain is very active and vivid dreams occur, but the body is completely paralyzed. This paralysis is thought to prevent individuals from acting out their dreams, and waking up during this state can be a terrifying experience.

Varial

A skateboarding trick where the rider reaches down, grabs the board, jumps in the air, and turns the board 180 degrees under their feet while holding it. Tony Hawk describes learning backside varials halfway up a pool, which was a pivotal moment in his trick development.

McTwist (540)

A specific skateboarding trick involving a one-and-a-half (540-degree) spin in the backside direction, combined with a particular grab that makes the rider flip upside down. Tony Hawk broke his femur attempting this trick and later successfully landed it again as part of his recovery.

360 Shove-It 5-0 Fakie

A highly technical skateboarding trick combining multiple elements: a 360-degree board rotation under the feet (shove-it), landing on one truck (5-0 position) on the coping, and then reversing energy to ride away backward (fakie). Tony Hawk describes this as an extremely difficult trick he's only landed once.

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What was Tony Hawk's self-concept before he discovered skateboarding?

Before skateboarding, Tony Hawk saw himself as a 'nerd' who excelled in advanced classes and thought he might become a teacher. He was an average athlete in other sports until he found skateboarding, which immediately resonated with him.

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How did Tony Hawk handle parental involvement in his early skateboarding career?

Tony's father was very supportive, driving him to skateparks and organizing events, which was unusual for the time. While grateful for the support, Tony sometimes felt uncomfortable and bullied due to perceived favoritism and the presence of his father in a scene meant to be an escape from parents.

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How did Tony Hawk approach learning new tricks and pushing the sport's boundaries?

Tony systematically combined existing tricks, visualizing how body positions and timing could work in unison. He never took a haphazard approach, relying on his foundation of skills to meticulously put new maneuvers together, often conceiving ideas in liminal states between wakefulness and sleep.

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What was the impact of the Tony Hawk's Pro Skater video game on skateboarding culture?

The video game significantly popularized skateboarding by allowing a wider audience to experience the sport virtually. It served as a catalyst, inspiring many to try real skateboarding and contributing to the sport's mainstream acceptance and evolution into a respected athletic pursuit.

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How has skateboarding culture evolved regarding health and professionalism since Tony Hawk's early career?

Early skateboarding culture was often antithetical to organized sports, with partying being common. However, as the sport gained popularity and career viability, many skaters, including Tony, began prioritizing performance, leading to more serious training, nutrition, and access to resources like physical therapists, treating it more like an elite sport.

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What is the mission of The Skatepark Project?

The Skatepark Project is Tony Hawk's non-profit organization dedicated to developing public skateparks in underserved communities. It provides resources, advice, and funding to local groups, aiming to create safe and inclusive spaces where youth can find community and identity through skateboarding.

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How did Tony Hawk manage his finances and avoid common pitfalls of early fame?

Tony's father encouraged him to invest in real estate early on, which became a saving grace. Despite initial financial struggles and living beyond his means during a lean period for skateboarding, Tony learned financial shrewdness out of necessity, pulling back on expenses and taking every job to support his family and his new company, Birdhouse.

1. Cultivate Drive, Vision, Persistence

Develop incredible drive, vision, and persistence to set and continually evolve goals, progressing through different life stages and achieving them.

2. Daily Practice for Mastery

Engage in your craft daily, as Tony Hawk does with skateboarding, to maintain skill and stay at the forefront of your field for decades.

3. Prioritize Drive Over Talent

Recognize that drive and discipline can outweigh natural talent; consistent effort and determination are often more critical for achieving excellence than inherent ability.

4. Internal Drive for Personal Goals

Cultivate an internal, non-pride-driven compulsion to achieve specific personal goals, especially after setbacks, as this deep-seated need can fuel recovery and ultimate success.

5. Comprehensive Goal Preparation

Prepare comprehensively for challenging goals, including diet and abstaining from alcohol, and engage in incremental practice sessions focused on specific components without immediate pressure to succeed.

6. Confront Injury-Causing Challenges

After a major injury, return to and complete the specific challenge or trick that caused the injury to overcome the trauma and demonstrate persistence.

7. Recovery: Diet, Schedule, Sleep

Be very disciplined in your diet, schedule, and sleep, especially during recovery from injury, to support healing and overall well-being.

8. Prioritize Performance, Avoid Distractions

Prioritize your core performance and avoid activities like excessive partying that can diminish your skills and hinder your progress, maintaining a clear focus on what is paramount to you.

9. Manage Risk in Auxiliary Interests

Consciously pull away from high-risk auxiliary activities that could jeopardize your primary career or passion, learning from past injuries to prioritize safety in other interests.

10. Early Financial Investment

Invest in long-term assets like property early in your career, especially when income is fluctuating or uncertain, as a crucial saving grace for future stability.

11. Prioritize True Passion

Be willing to quit activities, even those with family involvement or expectations, if you discover a true passion that resonates more deeply with you.

12. Discover Your Unique Passion

Seek out activities where you feel a unique connection and ability, even if it’s not yet a career path, and commit to doing it because it feels awesome and unique to you.

13. Seek Inspiring Epiphanies

Actively seek out experiences that create an epiphany, where you witness something that looks like magic and immediately know it’s what you want to pursue for as long as possible.

14. Conquer Proving Grounds

Identify specific challenging environments or tasks that serve as your ‘proving ground,’ and make it your mission to master them, knowing that success there will build confidence for other challenges.

15. Systematic Skill Combination

Approach new skill development by thinking about how to combine existing elements, considering body position and timing to ensure they work in unison, rather than haphazardly.

16. Deliberate, Confident Approach

Adopt a deliberate and confident approach to new challenges, knowing you possess the foundational skills, and focus on precisely combining them rather than relying on chance.

17. Capture Liminal State Ideas

Keep a method to capture ideas that come to you in the liminal state between wakefulness and sleep, as these moments can be fertile ground for new insights and creative solutions.

18. Leverage Twilight Focus

Utilize the twilight moments between wakefulness and sleep, or other mundane moments, to achieve deep focus on creative problem-solving or developing new ideas, as distractions fall away.

19. Structured Warm-Up Routine

Develop a structured warm-up routine with basic movements to gauge your physical state and make necessary adjustments for the day’s activity, similar to a surgeon preparing for an operation.

20. Chase Creative Mastery’s Buzz

Pursue the intrinsic reward of creating or mastering something new, as the unique feeling of accomplishment can become a powerful, lifelong motivator.

21. Practice Punctuality

Cultivate punctuality as a sign of respect for others’ time, ensuring you show up on time for commitments, which is a distinguishing factor in any occupation.

22. Overcome Social Discomfort

Recognize that discomfort in social interactions, especially when young and famous, can be misinterpreted as arrogance; learn to break out of your comfort zone to connect with others.

23. Navigate External Perceptions

Recognize that external perceptions, even of support, can sometimes create uncomfortable labels like ‘favorited’ or ‘spoiled,’ and learn to navigate these feelings.

24. Use Pressure to Prove Skill

Use external pressures or accusations of favoritism as motivation to push yourself harder and prove your skills, as genuine ability cannot be faked.

25. Prioritize Family & Impact

Prioritize being available to your family, especially children, and in your career, focus on specific, achievable goals that will have the furthest reach and best impact on your field or community.

26. Advocate for Equality & Inclusivity

Actively advocate for equal divisions, prize money, and attention for all genders in sports and activities, as this can significantly shift acceptance and participation, fostering a more inclusive environment.

27. Support Community Spaces

Support the development of public spaces, like skate parks, in underserved areas to provide a sense of community, identity, and purpose for young people, as these resources can be life-saving.

28. Learn from Diverse Groups

Engage with people of all ages and skill levels, as diverse interactions can provide fresh perspectives and key insights for your own progression, even from those much younger or seemingly less experienced.

29. Seize Opportune Moments

Even after a main event or when expectations have shifted, be ready to seize opportune moments to try for your personal goals, as the energy and focus can lead to unexpected success.

30. Curate Motivational Music

Create a personalized playlist of high-energy and meaningful songs to motivate and hype yourself up for challenging tasks or performances, leveraging paired association for focus and reward.

31. Represent Passion Authentically

Represent your passion or field authentically, showcasing its diverse aspects and positive culture to ensure people understand its true nature beyond mainstream perceptions.

32. Morning & Exercise Hydration

Dissolve one packet of Element (electrolytes) in 16-32 ounces of water and drink it first thing in the morning, and also during any physical exercise, for optimal brain and body function and to prevent cognitive/physical performance diminishment.

33. Flexible Meditation & NSDR

Use a meditation app like Waking Up to access various meditation durations and types, including Yoga Nidra or Non-Sleep Deep Rest (NSDR) protocols, to restore cognitive and physical energy even with short sessions.

34. Lean Into Strengths

Identify your strengths, such as understanding concepts and relating them to others, and lean into them, potentially considering roles like teaching where you can leverage these abilities.

35. Focus on Self-Improvement

When facing criticism or lack of external support, channel your energy into continually getting better at your craft, letting improvement be your primary focus.

The feeling I got when I rode away was something that I had never experienced and it is literally the buzz that I've been chasing ever since.

Tony Hawk

I've seen people that are naturals and I've seen that how they don't have that drive, they don't have the discipline and it's not wasted but they just don't they don't take advantage of what they have naturally.

Tony Hawk

I had to tell her like, I have to do this. She was gracious and accepting and that's all I could ask for.

Tony Hawk

I'm 55 years old and I truly ride my skateboard as a career, like that's nuts.

Tony Hawk

I never took for granted the fact that I grew up near a skate park and that was my home away from home, that was where I found my sense of community, my sense of identity, my my crew.

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Tony Hawk's Warm-Up Routine for Skateboarding

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  1. Perform basic tricks to gauge stiffness and identify areas needing adjustment for the day's session.
  2. Use this routine to check off various physical and mental 'boxes' to ensure comfort in the environment, similar to a surgeon preparing for an operation.

Tony Hawk's Preparation for Landing the 540 (McTwist) After Femur Injury

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  1. Commit to a strict diet and completely abstain from alcohol.
  2. Dedicate every session at the ramp to practicing 540s, focusing on the spin and landing zone without immediate intention of making the trick.
  3. Have a heart-to-heart conversation with his wife about the necessity of attempting the trick despite the risks, securing her gracious acceptance and emotional support.
  4. Ensure the ramp is large enough (e.g., 14-foot ramp) to provide more time in the air for adjustments and a safer landing zone, as going higher can paradoxically be safer for intricate aerial tricks.
55 years old
Tony Hawk's age Current age at the time of the podcast recording.
40+ years
Years at the forefront of skateboarding Tony Hawk has been a leading figure in skateboarding for over four decades.
14 years old
Age Tony Hawk turned professional He became a professional skateboarder at a young age.
$600
Total earnings as a pro skateboarder over 1.5 years Used to buy a Honda Express moped at age 15.5, highlighting early low earnings.
$500,000
Initial buyout offer for Tony Hawk's Pro Skater video game royalties Offered by Activision for future royalties, which Tony declined to let it ride.
Almost 1000
Number of skateparks helped by The Skatepark Project Approximately 700-800 of these parks are currently open.
30 years old
Age of Tony Hawk's oldest son, Riley Riley Hawk is a prominent professional street skateboarder.
10 years old
Age of Reese Nelson, a young female vert skateboarder She offers Tony Hawk advice on his tricks and skates his ramp.
7-8 months
Recovery period for non-union femur fracture before second surgery Tony Hawk was in constant pain and progress was stalled during this period.