Journal Club With Dr. Peter Attia | Metformin for Longevity & the Power of Belief Effects

Episode 141 Sep 11, 2023 Episode Page ↗
Overview

Dr. Peter Attia and Dr. Andrew Huberman host their first Journal Club, discussing two scientific papers. They analyze whether metformin enhances longevity and explore how beliefs about drug dosage, not just the actual dose, can profoundly shape brain activity and physiological responses to substances like nicotine.

At a Glance
20 Insights
2h 18m Duration
14 Topics
9 Concepts

Deep Dive Analysis

Introduction to Journal Club and Paper Discussion

Metformin: Mechanism of Action and Type 2 Diabetes

Insulin Resistance and Causes of Type 2 Diabetes

Bannister Study: Metformin and Longevity Claims

Critique of Bannister Study: Informative Censoring

Keyes Paper: Reassessing Metformin's Survival Advantage

Interpreting Kaplan-Meier Curves and Hazard Ratios

Metformin's Efficacy in ITP and Personal Experience

Other Glucose Disposal Agents and Caloric Restriction

How to Read and Critique Scientific Papers

Belief Effects vs. Placebo Effect

Nicotine's Cognitive Enhancing Effects

Dose-Dependent Belief Effects on Brain Physiology (Nicotine Study)

Implications of Belief Effects on Drug Response and Side Effects

Metformin

A drug primarily used for type 2 diabetes that works by weakly inhibiting complex one of the mitochondria, reducing hepatic glucose output and changing how the body partitions fuel. It was originally discovered from a lilac plant.

Insulin Resistance

A condition where cells, primarily muscle cells, require increasingly more insulin to trigger glucose transporters and allow glucose to enter the cell. This leads to elevated blood glucose levels and is often preceded by hyperinsulinemia.

Geroprotection

The concept of drugs or agents that protect against aging by targeting the fundamental biological hallmarks of aging, such as decreased autophagy, increased senescence, and genomic instability, rather than specific diseases of aging.

Informative Censoring

A methodological issue in retrospective studies where subjects who deviate from inclusion criteria during the study (e.g., stop taking a drug, progress to needing other drugs) are excluded from the final assessment, potentially biasing the results.

Kaplan-Meier Curve

A graph used in survival analysis to show the cumulative survival rate over time. The x-axis represents time, and the y-axis represents cumulative survival, always decreasing monotonically or staying flat.

Hazard Ratio

A measure used in survival analysis to compare the risk of an event (like death) between two groups. A hazard ratio greater than 1 indicates an increased risk, while a value less than 1 indicates a reduced risk.

Statistical Power

The probability that a study will detect a statistically significant difference between groups if such a difference truly exists. It is determined before an experiment based on the expected effect size and the number of samples needed.

Belief Effects

A phenomenon where an individual's beliefs about a treatment or intervention, often informed by knowledge or context, can directly influence their physiological and psychological responses. This differs from binary placebo effects by scaling with the perceived dose or type of information.

Signal-to-Noise Ratio (in brain)

The clarity or fidelity of information processing in the brain. Acetylcholine, for example, increases this ratio for sensory information by enhancing the signal and reducing background noise, leading to clearer perceptions.

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What is metformin and how does it work?

Metformin is a drug primarily used for type 2 diabetes that works by weakly inhibiting complex one of the mitochondria, which reduces the amount of glucose the liver puts out into the bloodstream.

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What is insulin resistance and what causes it?

Insulin resistance is when cells, mainly muscle cells, become less responsive to insulin, requiring more insulin to absorb glucose. Key causes include inactivity, sleep deprivation, hypercortisolemia, and accumulating excess fat in muscles, liver, and pancreas.

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Did the Bannister study prove metformin enhances longevity?

The Bannister study in 2014 suggested a 15% relative reduction in all-cause mortality for type 2 diabetics on metformin compared to non-diabetic controls, but a later re-analysis (Keyes paper) identified significant methodological limitations, particularly 'informative censoring,' which likely biased these results.

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How do belief effects differ from placebo effects?

Placebo effects are typically binary (drug vs. no drug/placebo), while belief effects involve a graded response where the amount and type of information or belief about a treatment can scale its physiological and psychological impact.

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Can our belief about a drug's dose affect its biological impact?

Yes, a study on nicotine showed that subjects who believed they received a high dose of nicotine, even when all received the same low dose, exhibited a dose-dependent activation in brain regions like the thalamus and prefrontal cortex, similar to what a real high dose would induce.

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Does nicotine have a calming effect in addition to enhancing focus?

Yes, nicotine can enhance focus in the brain while also providing muscle relaxation in the periphery, creating a balance between alertness and physical mellowness.

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Is caloric restriction a proven strategy for human longevity?

It's not entirely clear if profound caloric restriction offers a survival advantage to humans, and it's generally not practical or sustainable for most people due to the profound misery and potential muscle mass loss.

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What are the key steps for effectively reading a scientific paper?

To read a paper effectively, identify the general and specific questions being asked, understand the experimental approach, determine what was found, and critically assess whether the conclusions are truly substantiated by the findings and methods.

1. Exercise to Prevent Insulin Resistance

Engage in regular physical exercise, as it is one of the most important actions to prevent insulin resistance, a fundamental problem in type 2 diabetes.

2. Prioritize Adequate Sleep

Ensure sufficient sleep, as sleep deprivation (e.g., 4 hours for a week) can profoundly reduce glucose disposal by about half and induce profound insulin resistance.

3. Manage Energy Balance

Maintain a healthy energy balance to prevent excess fat accumulation in muscles, liver, and pancreas, as this exacerbates insulin resistance.

4. Ensure Proper Hydration & Electrolytes

Prioritize adequate hydration and electrolyte intake (sodium, magnesium, potassium) in correct ratios for optimal brain and body function; dissolve one packet of Element in 16-32 ounces of water upon waking and during physical exercise.

5. Optimize Male Estrogen Levels

Males should aim to keep their estrogen levels as high as possible without negative symptoms, as estrogen is crucial for libido, brain function, tissue, and bone health, and unnecessary estrogen suppression should be avoided.

6. Monitor Resting Lactate Levels

Consider monitoring resting fasted lactate levels, aiming for below 1 millimole (ideally 0.3-0.6 millimole), as elevated levels can indicate compromised mitochondrial function.

7. Eat Unprocessed Foods

Focus on consuming mostly unprocessed or minimally processed foods to obtain nutrients, as this can allow for greater satiety and enjoyment of eating.

8. Leverage Belief in Drug Efficacy

Be aware that your beliefs about a drug’s dose and expected effects can significantly influence how your brain and physiology respond to it, potentially altering brain activation.

9. Reframe Drug Side Effects

Consider reframing the perception of drug side effects as evidence that the medication is working, which can lead to a more positive experience and greater reported relief from primary symptoms.

10. Cultivate Intellectual Humility

Adopt a mindset of intellectual humility, acknowledging the limits of current scientific knowledge and being open to new evidence that may change understanding.

11. Critically Analyze Scientific Papers

Develop the skill of dissecting scientific papers to understand their nuances, limitations, and true conclusions, fostering a scientific and clinical mindset.

12. Structured Scientific Paper Analysis

When reading a scientific paper, ask four key questions: 1) What is the general and specific question? 2) What was the approach/methods (and look up unfamiliar methods)? 3) What did they find (check figure headers)? 4) Are the conclusions truly substantiated by the findings?

13. Strategic Paper Reading Order

When reading scientific papers, start with the title and abstract, then review the figures to grasp the main findings visually, and only then read the full text for details.

14. Know Study Design Limitations

Be aware of the inherent biases and limitations of epidemiological studies (e.g., inability to control all confounders) and the strengths of randomized prospective experiments, understanding the ‘blind spots’ of each.

15. Beware Confounding Lifestyle Factors

When interpreting studies, especially observational ones, consider that lifestyle choices and underlying health convictions can introduce confounders that are difficult to measure and may influence outcomes.

16. Understand Statistical Power

When evaluating research, consider the statistical power of the study to determine if a non-significant result truly means no effect, or if the study was simply underpowered to detect a difference.

17. Review Supplemental Paper Information

Always check the supplemental information of scientific papers, as important details and data often reside there due to journal length constraints.

18. Practice Yoga Nidra/NSDR

Engage in meditation, yoga nidra, or non-sleep deep rest (NSDR), even for short 10-minute sessions, to greatly restore levels of cognitive and physical energy.

19. Utilize Show Notes for Papers

Refer to the podcast show notes for access to the scientific papers and figures discussed to deepen understanding of the topics.

20. Advocate for Aging Biomarker Research

Recognize the critical need for more research dollars into better biomarkers of aging to accurately assess the effectiveness of longevity interventions.

The difference between being metabolically healthy and having profound type 2 diabetes is one teaspoon of glucose in your bloodstream.

Peter Attia

Exercising is one of the most important things you're going to do to ward off insulin resistance.

Peter Attia

Just because something doesn't achieve statistical significance, the only way you can say it's not significant is you have to know what it was powered to detect.

Peter Attia

Your brain is a prediction making machine. It's a data interpretation machine, but it's clear that one of the more important pieces of data are your beliefs about how these things impact you.

Andrew Huberman

What we believe about the effects of a drug, presumably, in addition to what we believe about how much we're taking and what those effects ought to be, clearly are impacting at least the way that our brain reacts to those drugs.

Andrew Huberman

How to Read a Scientific Paper (4 Questions)

Andrew Huberman
  1. Identify the general question they are asking and the specific question.
  2. Understand the experimental approach they used to test that question (methods).
  3. Determine what they found (results).
  4. Critically assess whether the major conclusions drawn in the paper are truly substantiated by what they found and what they did.
5 grams
Amount of glucose in total circulation In a person with normal blood sugar
1 teaspoon
Difference in circulating glucose between metabolically healthy and profound Type 2 Diabetes Approximate amount
6 years
Average reduction in lifespan for individuals with Type 2 Diabetes Actuarial difference
15%
Relative reduction in all-cause death reported in Bannister study For Type 2 diabetics on metformin over 2.8 years
4 hours
Sleep duration per night for a week that can induce profound insulin resistance Reduces glucose disposal by about half
45.6%
Percentage of singletons with Type 2 Diabetes on lipid-lowering medication (Keyes study) Compared to 15.4% in matched non-diabetics, highlighting a 3x difference
1.48
Unadjusted hazard ratio for all-cause mortality in singletons with Type 2 Diabetes on metformin (Keyes study) Indicating a 48% greater chance of dying compared to non-diabetic counterparts
2.15
Unadjusted hazard ratio for all-cause mortality in discordant twins (Keyes study) For diabetic twin on metformin compared to non-diabetic co-twin, indicating a 115% greater chance of dying
0.3-0.6 millimole
Normal range for resting fasted lactate In a healthy person
2 millimole
Lactate threshold used by Peter Attia for Zone 2 wattage As a determinant on the bike
10-30%
Performance detriment or improvement observed in stress belief effects studies Approximate range
12% more
Weight lost by hotel workers informed about health benefits of their job Compared to a control group with no difference in actual movement