The Science of Love, Desire and Attachment

Episode 59 Feb 14, 2022 Episode Page ↗
Overview

Andrew Huberman explores the psychology and neurobiology of desire, love, and attachment, detailing how childhood attachment styles influence adult relationships. He discusses autonomic arousal, empathy, "positive delusion," and provides tools and supplements to enhance libido and foster healthy partnerships.

At a Glance
17 Insights
2h 30m Duration
19 Topics
8 Concepts

Deep Dive Analysis

Introduction to Desire, Love, and Attachment

Odor, Attractiveness, and the Menstrual Cycle

Romance: Balancing Love and Desire

Childhood Attachment Styles: The Strange Situation Task

Adult Attachment Styles and Their Malleability

The Autonomic Nervous System and Attachment

Neurobiology of Desire, Love, and Attachment

Empathy and Autonomic Matching in Relationships

Positive Delusion and Relationship Stability

Predictors of Relationship Success and Failure

Mate Selection Based on Neurochemical Tendencies

Brain Synchronization and Relationship Compatibility

The 36 Questions That Lead to Love

Infidelity and Self-Expansion in Relationships

Subconscious Processes and Relationship Chemistry

Tools to Increase Libido and Sex Drive

Maca Root for Libido Enhancement

Tongkat Ali and Libido

Tribulus Terrestris for Sexual Function

Autonomic Nervous System (ANS) Seesaw

The ANS is an automatic system controlling bodily functions, likened to a seesaw balancing alertness/anxiety (sympathetic) and calm/sleepiness (parasympathetic). Its 'hinge' tightness or looseness reflects an individual's autonomic tone, influencing how they react to stress or relaxation, and how they interact with others' emotional states.

Secure Attachment Style

A childhood attachment pattern where a child is visibly upset when a caregiver leaves but expresses happiness upon their return, feeling confident in the caregiver's availability and responsiveness. This style is associated with stable and predictable long-term romantic relationships in adulthood.

Anxious Avoidant Attachment Style

A childhood attachment pattern where a child tends to avoid or ignore the caregiver and shows little emotion when the parent leaves or returns. In adulthood, this may manifest as difficulty with intimacy and emotional expression in romantic relationships.

Anxious Ambivalent/Resistant Attachment Style

A childhood attachment pattern where a child shows distress even before separation from the caregiver and is very clingy and difficult to comfort upon return. As adults, individuals with this style may seek high levels of intimacy, approval, and responsiveness from partners, often with anxiety about abandonment.

Disorganized/Disoriented Attachment Style

A childhood attachment pattern characterized by tense and odd physical postures, appearing disoriented or confused by separation and reunion. This style is associated with inconsistent and contradictory behaviors in adult relationships.

Positive Delusion

A belief that one's romantic partner is uniquely special and irreplaceable, capable of evoking feelings that no other person could. This 'delusion' is considered a critical neural circuit for establishing and maintaining long-term desire, love, and attachment.

Self-Expansion Model of Relationships

A psychological model proposing that people are motivated to enter relationships to enhance their self-concept and increase self-efficacy. Experiencing pleasure, arousal, and excitement in a relationship contributes to this self-expansion, making individuals feel more capable and positive about themselves.

Autonomic Empathy

A concept describing the coordination or synchronization of one individual's autonomic nervous system with another's. This can involve matching emotional tones or, in some cases, complementing them, and is a fundamental aspect of forming and maintaining desire, love, and attachment.

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How does a woman's menstrual cycle influence perceived attractiveness?

Men tend to rate women's odors as most attractive during the pre-ovulatory phase of their cycle. Similarly, women in their pre-ovulatory phase rate men's odors, especially those of more symmetrical men, as more attractive.

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Does oral contraception affect perceived attractiveness?

Yes, oral contraception prevents the peak in perceived attractiveness by men during a woman's pre-ovulatory phase and also prevents women from preferring the odors of more symmetrical men during this phase.

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How do childhood attachment styles relate to adult romantic relationships?

Childhood attachment styles (secure, anxious avoidant, anxious ambivalent/resistant, disorganized/disoriented) are strongly predictive of an individual's attachment style in romantic partnerships later in life, as the same neural circuits are repurposed.

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Can adult attachment styles be changed?

Yes, attachment styles are plastic and can change across the lifespan through specific psychological processes and biological adjustments, including self-awareness and interactions with partners.

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What is the role of the autonomic nervous system in attachment?

The autonomic nervous system, which controls states of alertness and calm, is a core element of how we form and maintain attachments. Our individual autonomic tone, often shaped by early caregiver interactions, influences our reactions to a partner's presence or absence.

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What are the three core neural circuits for desire, love, and attachment?

The three core neural circuits are the autonomic nervous system, neural circuits for empathy (autonomic matching), and neural circuits associated with positive delusions about the partner.

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What behaviors predict relationship failure?

The 'four horsemen' that predict relationship failure are criticism, defensiveness, stonewalling (emotional cutoff), and contempt, with contempt being the most powerful predictor of divorce.

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How does self-expansion affect perception of other attractive people?

Individuals who experience high levels of self-expansion through their current romantic relationship (feeling that the relationship is exciting, novel, and challenging due to their partner) tend to rate attractive alternative partners as less attractive.

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Is increasing dopamine always good for libido?

No, simply increasing dopamine too high can lead to a chronic state of pursuit and desire for sexual activity, but an inability to engage the parasympathetic nervous system sufficiently for physical arousal and performance.

1. Understand Your Attachment Style

Learn about the four attachment styles (secure, anxious avoidant, anxious ambivalent/resistant, disorganized/disoriented) to gain self-awareness and understand how your early experiences influence adult romantic relationships. This knowledge is crucial because attachment styles are plastic and can change over time.

2. Protect Your Secure Attachment

If you possess or develop a secure attachment style, actively protect it in your relationships, as it is possible to become anxiously attached if influenced by a partner with a less adaptive attachment style. Maintaining secure attachment is vital for stable, predictable long-term relationships.

3. Regulate Your Autonomic Nervous System

Develop the ability to self-regulate your autonomic nervous system (calm down from stress, increase alertness from fatigue) independently of a partner’s presence. Healthy interdependence requires that you can adjust your own physiological state even when your partner is absent.

4. Avoid the Four Relationship Horsemen

Actively avoid criticism, defensiveness, stonewalling, and especially contempt in your relationships, as these behaviors are strong predictors of relationship failure and divorce with high accuracy. Contempt, in particular, is detrimental to attachment and empathy.

5. Cultivate Self-Expansion in Relationships

Understand that people are motivated to enter relationships to enhance their self-efficacy; cultivate this ‘self-expansion’ by making your partner feel valued, capable, and excited through your words and actions. Additionally, developing a stable internal self-worth reduces susceptibility to external validation and strengthens the bond.

6. Read ‘Attached’ for Relationship Tools

Read the book ‘Attached: The New Science of Adult Attachment and How It Can Help You Find and Keep Love’ by Amir Levine and Rachel Heller. This resource provides actionable tools for forming and maintaining secure attachment styles in adult romantic relationships.

7. Practice the 36 Questions for Connection

Engage in the ‘36 questions that lead to love’ exercise with a partner or potential partner. This structured exchange of progressively deeper personal narratives can foster autonomic synchronization and deepen feelings of attachment and love.

8. Use the Physiological Sigh to Calm

Perform the physiological sigh (two deep inhales through the nose, followed by a long exhale through the mouth) to quickly calm yourself down. This technique activates the parasympathetic nervous system, helping to adjust your autonomic state.

9. Utilize Cold Exposure for Alertness

Engage in cold exposure practices like ice baths or cold showers, or deliberate hyperventilation, to deliberately increase alertness and sympathetic nervous system activation. This can also serve as a form of self-induced stress inoculation.

10. Explore Gottman’s Relationship Resources

Search for and explore resources from the Gottmans’ ‘Love Lab’ at the University of Washington. Their extensive research and popular books offer insights into what makes relationships succeed or fail and provide guidance for maintaining healthy partnerships.

11. Recognize Mate-Seeking Categories

Be aware of Helen Fisher’s four mate-seeking categories (dopamine, serotonin, testosterone, and estrogen types) based on self-reported preferences. Recognizing these tendencies in yourself and others can aid in navigating partner selection and respecting different relationship dynamics.

12. Optimize Testosterone and Estrogen

Consult the Huberman Lab episode on testosterone and estrogen optimization to learn about behaviors, supplements, and other factors that influence these hormones. Maintaining appropriate ratios of these hormones is crucial for healthy libido and desire in both men and women.

13. Avoid Excessive Dopamine for Libido

Exercise caution when attempting to boost libido by solely increasing dopamine levels, as excessively high dopamine can lead to a state of chronic sexual pursuit without the ability for physical arousal or performance. The sexual arousal arc requires a balance of sympathetic and parasympathetic activation.

14. Consider Maca Supplementation for Libido

If seeking to increase libido, consider supplementing with 2-3 grams of maca powder or capsules per day, typically in the morning. Studies suggest maca can significantly enhance subjective sexual desire in both men and women, including those experiencing SSRI-induced sexual dysfunction, without altering hormone levels. (Consult a physician).

15. Consider Tongat Ali for Libido

For potential increases in libido and free testosterone, consider supplementing with 400mg of Tongat Ali per day, preferably the Indonesian variety. Some research indicates it can increase unbound testosterone by lowering sex hormone binding globulin. (Consult a physician).

16. Consider Tribulus Terrestis for Libido

Some evidence suggests Tribulus Terrestis (e.g., 6 grams for 60 days, or 750mg/day in other studies) can increase sexual desire and function, particularly in females, and may increase free testosterone in certain populations. (Consult a physician).

17. Daily Element for Hydration

Drink one packet of Element dissolved in 16-32 ounces of water upon waking and during physical exercise. This electrolyte drink (sodium, magnesium, potassium, no sugar) is critical for optimal brain and body function by ensuring adequate hydration and electrolyte balance.

How we attached or did not attach to primary caregivers in our childhood has much to do with how we attach or fail to attach to romantic partners as adults, because the same neural circuits, the neurons and their connections in the brain and body that underlie attachment between infant and caregiver... are repurposed for adult romantic attachments.

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If ever there was a literature in psychology that is absolutely tamped down and has a firm basis in both data and real world principles and real world examples, it's this notion of attachment styles.

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The autonomic nervous systems of children tend to mimic the autonomic nervous systems of the primary caregiver.

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No one brain area can give rise to anything as complex as desire, love, or attachment. Instead, there are multiple brain areas that through their coordinated action, create a sort of a song that we call desire or a song that we call love or a song that we call attachment.

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Contempt has actually been referred to as the sulfuric acid of relationship.

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Sex drive or desire, the pursuit of someone to mate with, meaning to mate the verb, not necessarily to find a mate, may be a way to forage for potential love partners.

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The 36 Questions That Lead to Love

Andrew Huberman (referencing a New York Times article)
  1. Sit down with another person (e.g., on a date or with an existing partner).
  2. One person asks a series of 36 progressively deeper and more emotional questions, divided into three sets.
  3. The other person answers all 36 questions.
  4. Then, the roles are reversed: the second person asks all 36 questions, and the first person answers.
  5. Both individuals pay careful attention and emotionally respond (or not) to the answers of the other person.
50%
Divorce rate in the US Approximately half of marriages end in divorce, with most ending before the eight-year mark.
94%
Gottman's accuracy in predicting divorce Based on observing couple interactions and the 'four horsemen' behaviors.
2-3 grams per day
Maca dosage for libido Shown to increase subjective reports of sexual desire in men and women, independent of hormone changes. Typically consumed early in the day.
1.5-3 grams per day
Maca dosage for SSRI-induced sexual dysfunction Showed significant improvements in libido in remitted depressed outpatients taking SSRIs.
400 milligrams per day
Tongkat Ali dosage for free testosterone Can increase unbound (free) testosterone by lowering sex hormone binding globulin.
750 milligrams per day
Tribulus Terrestris dosage for sexual function (females) Divided into three equal doses for 120 days, showed no significant difference in female sexual function index, but increased free and bioavailable testosterone in postmenopausal women.
6 grams per day
Tribulus Terrestris dosage for libido increase Taken for 60 days, showed a clear and significant increase in libido and sexual function, with a substantial 16.3% increase in testosterone (though not statistically significant due to variability).
2-4 weeks
Tribulus Terrestris study duration for libido (females) Involved 67 subjects with loss of libido, showed significant improvement in sexual desire and function.