The Science & Treatment of Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD)

Episode 78 Jun 27, 2022 Episode Page ↗
Overview

This episode with Dr. Andrew Huberman explains the biology and psychology of obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD), distinguishing it from OCPD. It details behavioral, pharmacologic, and holistic treatments, emphasizing the importance of treatment sequencing and anxiety tolerance.

At a Glance
12 Insights
2h 31m Duration
19 Topics
6 Concepts

Deep Dive Analysis

Defining OCD vs. Obsessive-Compulsive Personality Disorder

Incidence, Severity, and Categories of OCD

Anxiety as the Link Between Obsessions and Compulsions

Genetic Components and Neural Mechanisms of OCD

The Cortico-Striatal-Thalamic Loop in OCD

Clinical Diagnosis of OCD: The Yale-Brown Obsessive Compulsive Scale (Y-BOCS)

Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT) and Exposure Therapy for OCD

Unique Characteristics of CBT/Exposure Therapy for OCD

Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors (SSRIs) for OCD Treatment

Considerations and Side Effects of SSRIs and Prescription Drugs

Serotonin, Cognitive Flexibility, and Psilocybin Studies

Neuroleptics and Neuromodulators in OCD Treatment

Cannabis (THC & CBD) and Ketamine Treatment for OCD

Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation (TMS) for OCD

The Importance of Distinguishing Thoughts from Actions in OCD

Hormones (Cortisol, DHEA, Testosterone, GABA) and OCD

Holistic Treatments: Mindfulness Meditation and Nutraceuticals

OCD vs. Obsessive-Compulsive Personality Disorder: Delayed Gratification

Understanding Superstitions, Compulsions, and Obsessions

Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD)

OCD is characterized by intrusive, recurrent obsessions (unwanted thoughts) and compulsions (behaviors) performed to relieve the obsessions. However, these compulsions provide only brief relief and ultimately strengthen the obsessions, creating a debilitating loop.

Obsessive-Compulsive Personality Disorder (OCPD)

OCPD is distinct from OCD, lacking the intrusive and unwanted nature of obsessions. Individuals with OCPD often welcome or enjoy their patterns of thought and behavior, which can involve a strong sense of delayed gratification and a desire for order, sometimes enhancing their function in certain areas of life.

Cortico-Striatal-Thalamic Loop

This neural circuit, involving the cortex, striatum (including basal ganglia), and thalamus, is thought to underlie OCD. Dysfunction in this loop leads to the repetitive thought-action cycles, with the thalamic reticular nucleus acting as a gate for which information and thoughts reach conscious perception.

Anxiety Tolerance

A core principle in treating OCD, particularly with cognitive behavioral therapy, is teaching patients to tolerate rather than relieve their anxiety. By confronting the utmost fear and suppressing compulsive actions, individuals learn that anxiety can exist without the need for immediate ritualistic relief, thereby disrupting the OCD loop.

Go and No-Go Behaviors

These refer to the generation of actions ('go') and the resistance or suppression of actions ('no-go'), primarily controlled by the striatum. In OCD, the striatum is involved in the compulsive 'go' behaviors or the 'no-go' avoidance of feared actions, reinforced by the transient anxiety relief.

Cognitive Inflexibility

This refers to challenges in task switching or adapting to new rules, a hallmark theme of OCD. Serotonin systems, though not directly implicated as the cause of OCD, have been shown to impact cognitive flexibility, suggesting an indirect link to some aspects of the disorder.

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What is the primary difference between Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD) and Obsessive-Compulsive Personality Disorder (OCPD)?

OCD is characterized by intrusive, unwanted obsessions and compulsions that provide only temporary relief and ultimately strengthen the obsession. OCPD, however, does not involve intrusive thoughts; individuals often welcome or even enjoy their meticulous and orderly patterns, which can sometimes be adaptive.

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How common and debilitating is OCD?

OCD is extremely common, affecting 2.5% to 4% of people, and is ranked as the seventh most debilitating illness overall, not just psychiatric illnesses, due to the significant suffering and impairment it causes in daily life.

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What are the main categories of OCD obsessions and compulsions?

The general categories of OCD include checking (e.g., locks, stove), repetition (e.g., counting, repeated actions), and order (e.g., cleanliness, symmetry, completeness, or fear of contamination leading to disgust).

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What is the underlying neural circuit involved in OCD?

OCD is thought to be generated by dysfunction in the cortico-striatal-thalamic loop, a circuit involving the cortex (conscious perception), the striatum (action selection and suppression), and the thalamus (sensory and thought gating).

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How does Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT) with exposure therapy treat OCD?

CBT for OCD aims to get patients to tolerate maximum anxiety by confronting their deepest fears and then deliberately preventing them from engaging in their usual compulsions, thereby interrupting the reinforcing loop between obsessions and compulsions.

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Are Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors (SSRIs) effective for OCD, and how do they compare to CBT?

SSRIs can significantly reduce OCD symptoms, but studies suggest that cognitive behavioral therapy is generally more effective. Combining SSRIs with CBT from the outset may not offer additional benefit over CBT alone, but adding CBT to existing SSRI treatment can provide further symptom reduction.

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Does cannabis (THC or CBD) help alleviate OCD symptoms?

A placebo-controlled human laboratory study found that smoked cannabis, whether containing primarily THC or CBD, had little immediate impact on OCD symptoms and yielded smaller reductions in anxiety compared to placebo.

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What role do hormones play in OCD?

Studies show that females with OCD have elevated cortisol and DHEA, while males with OCD have elevated cortisol and reduced testosterone. These hormonal patterns suggest an overall reduction in GABA transmission, potentially contributing to increased excitation in brain networks involved in OCD.

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How do superstitions relate to OCD?

Superstitions are beliefs linking irrelevant actions to outcomes, driven by the brain's desire for predictability and control. When repeated often enough, superstitions can become automatic and evolve into full-blown compulsions and obsessions, especially in individuals with a tendency towards OCD.

1. Seek Professional OCD Treatment

If you suspect you have persistent, intrusive obsessions and compulsions that cause distress or impair daily functioning, seek evidence-based treatment from a licensed clinician. This is crucial as most people with OCD do not seek treatment, leading to prolonged suffering.

2. Engage in Exposure-Based CBT

Work with a trained psychologist or psychiatrist in exposure-based cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT) for OCD. The therapy aims to progressively increase anxiety by confronting your deepest fears and then preventing the compulsive behavior, teaching you to tolerate anxiety without engaging in rituals.

3. Perform OCD Therapy Homework

Actively perform “homework” assigned by your clinician outside of therapy sessions. This is vital for challenging anxiety and interrupting compulsions in your home environment, as familiar surroundings can often trigger relapses.

4. Understand Thoughts Are Not Actions

Cultivate the understanding that intrusive thoughts are merely thoughts and not equivalent to actions. This realization is a fundamental step in OCD treatment, helping to reduce the urge to perform compulsions to suppress disturbing or taboo thoughts.

5. Avoid Substance Abuse for Anxiety

Do not use substances like alcohol or cannabis to suppress anxiety related to OCD. Suppressing anxiety is counterproductive to effective OCD treatment, which focuses on learning to tolerate and manage anxiety without compulsive behaviors.

6. Consult Physician for Drug Changes

Always consult with a licensed physician or psychiatrist before starting, stopping, or altering the dosage of any prescription drug for OCD. This ensures safety and appropriate management of complex drug interactions and side effects.

7. Add CBT to Existing SSRI Treatment

If you are currently taking an SSRI for OCD and experiencing some symptom reduction, consider adding cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT) to your regimen. Studies show that initiating CBT while on SSRIs can lead to further significant reductions in OCD symptoms.

8. Practice Yoga Nidra or NSDR

Engage in 10-minute sessions of Yoga Nidra or Non-Sleep Deep Rest (NSDR) to restore cognitive and physical energy. These practices involve lying still with an active mind and are supported by scientific data for their restorative benefits.

9. Consider Myo-Inositol Supplementation

Explore supplementing with 900 milligrams of myo-inositol, potentially in combination with other sleep aids. This dosage has been anecdotally reported to improve sleep quality, reduce anxiety, and enhance daytime focus and alertness.

10. Be Precise with Terminology

Use mental health terms like “OCD” and “trauma” carefully and precisely, understanding their clinical definitions. This avoids mislabeling and ensures that individuals receive appropriate understanding and treatment for their specific conditions.

11. Avoid High Glycine Dosages

Refrain from taking extremely high dosages of glycine, such as 60 grams per day, unless specifically instructed and supervised within a controlled research study. Such high amounts are not generally recommended for self-administration.

12. Explore Home Visits for OCD

If appropriate for your situation, discuss the possibility of home visits with your OCD clinician. This unique aspect of therapy allows the clinician to observe and address context-specific triggers and avoidance patterns in your natural environment.

OCD is more like an itch that you feel, you scratch it and the itch intensifies.

Andrew Huberman

Every time that one engages in the compulsion related to the obsession, the obsession simply becomes stronger.

Andrew Huberman

The person with OCD knows it's irrational. They might feel crazy because they're having these thoughts, but they know it makes no sense whatsoever...

Andrew Huberman

Thoughts are not as bad as actions.

Andrew Huberman

Most people with OCD do not seek evidence-based treatment.

Andrew Huberman

Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT) and Exposure Therapy for OCD

Dr. Helen Blair Simpson (summarizing standard procedures)
  1. Conduct two planning sessions with the patient to describe the procedure, timing, and duration of therapy.
  2. Perform 15 exposure sessions, typically twice a week or more, either in-person (in vivo) with actual triggers or imaginal (imagining the trigger).
  3. Gradually and progressively increase the level of anxiety evoked during exposure sessions.
  4. Implement ritual prevention by preventing the person from engaging in their normal compulsions while experiencing heightened anxiety.
  5. Assign 'homework' for the patient to practice confronting anxiety and suppressing compulsions in their home environment, which often triggers relapses.
  6. Conduct home visits by the clinician to observe patient interactions in their native setting, identify specific anxiety-evoking locations, and pinpoint avoidance behaviors or 'crutches' used to suppress anxiety.
2.5% to 4%
Incidence of true OCD in the population An astonishingly high number, many cases go unnoticed or unreported due to shame.
Number 7
OCD ranking among most debilitating illnesses Includes all illnesses, not just psychiatric disorders.
40% to 50%
Genetic component in OCD cases Based on twin studies, but not always directly inherited or phenotypically apparent.
Up to 70%
Percentage of people with OCD who also have anxiety Hard to tease apart whether anxiety leads to OCD or vice versa, or if they operate in parallel.
16 or higher
Y-BOCS index threshold for debilitating symptoms Score on the Yale-Brown Obsessive Compulsive Scale, indicating significant symptom severity.
From 25 down to about 11
Reduction in Y-BOCS score with CBT Observed after 4 weeks of cognitive behavioral therapy in a 12-week study.
10 to 12 weeks
Duration for significant reduction in OCD symptoms with CBT or SSRIs Relief from symptoms starts around 4-8 weeks, but significant reduction shows up later.
14 adults
Participants in cannabis/OCD study With prior cannabis experience, randomized placebo-controlled investigation.
0.4%
CBD/THC percentage in some cannabis cigarettes Used in the acute effects of cannabinoids on OCD symptoms study.
800 milligrams
Total amount of cannabis consumed in study In the acute effects of cannabinoids on OCD symptoms study.
18 to 49 years old
Age range of subjects in neurosteroid levels study Comparing OCD patients to age and sex-matched healthy controls.
30 patients with OCD and 30 healthy controls
Participants in neurosteroid levels study Examining serum levels of hormones like progesterone, pregnenolone, DHEA, cortisol, and testosterone.
900 milligrams
Dosage of myo-inositol for sleep and anxiety Reported as a low dose, with some studies exploring much higher dosages (10-12 grams/day) that can cause gastric discomfort.
60 grams per day
Dosage of glycine explored in studies An astonishingly high amount, not recommended without medical supervision.
25 people with OCD, 25 with OCPD, 25 with both, 25 healthy controls
Participants in delayed reward study Examining capacity to delay reward to differentiate OCD and OCPD.