Using Your Nervous System to Enhance Your Immune System

Episode 44 Nov 1, 2021 Episode Page ↗
Overview

Andrew Huberman, a Stanford Professor, explores the immune system and its interaction with the nervous system. He details science-backed tools to enhance immunity, reduce sickness behavior, and accelerate healing by leveraging neurochemicals and behavioral protocols.

At a Glance
12 Insights
1h 57m Duration
17 Topics
9 Concepts

Deep Dive Analysis

Introduction: Mind-Immune System Connection & New Research

Foundational Health Practices for Immunity

Immune System Basics: Barriers, Innate & Adaptive Immunity

Innate Immune System: Killer Cells, Complement Proteins, Cytokines

Adaptive Immune System: Antibodies and Immunoglobulins

Enhancing Mucosal Barriers: Nasal Breathing, Eye Hygiene, Fermented Foods

Sickness Behavior: Symptoms and Adaptive Responses

Neural Pathways of Sickness Behavior: Vagus Nerve, Fever, Photophobia

Glymphatic System and Sleep for Immune Recovery

Heat Exposure for Immune System Enhancement

Cyclic Hyperventilation for Immune Activation

Brain Chemicals and Mindset's Impact on Immunity

Dopamine and Hope for Accelerated Healing

Cold Exposure for Catecholamine and Immune Boost

Spirulina for Rhinitis and Allergy Symptom Relief

Acupuncture's Mechanism for Reducing Inflammation

Convergence of Science and Ancient Healing Practices

Innate Immune System

The body's rapid, non-specific first line of defense against invaders like bacteria and viruses, involving cells like white blood cells, neutrophils, macrophages, and natural killer cells, which engulf and kill invaders, often marked by complement proteins.

Adaptive Immune System

The body's specific, memory-based immune response that creates antibodies (immunoglobulins like IgM and IgG) to recognize and combat specific invaders encountered previously, providing long-term immunity.

Cytokines

These are 'help me' alarm signals released by cells when they are damaged or infected, calling in immune cells to the site of invasion. Examples include interleukin-1, interleukin-6, and tumor necrosis factor alpha, which are pro-inflammatory, while interleukin-10 is anti-inflammatory.

Sickness Behavior

A suite of motivated responses to illness, including lethargy, reduced grooming, loss of appetite, and altered social interaction, designed to conserve resources for healing and prevent spread of infection. It shares similarities with major depression.

Glymphatic System

A recently discovered plumbing system in the brain that becomes highly active during deep sleep, clearing out metabolic debris and waste products. It is especially important for recovery from infection, injury, and potentially psychological trauma.

Catecholamines

Neurochemicals like dopamine, epinephrine (adrenaline), and norepinephrine (noradrenaline) that promote alertness, motivation, and movement. They act as a bridge between the nervous system and immune system, deploying immune cells and reducing inflammation.

Fascia

A thick sheath of connective tissue that surrounds muscles and other organs. Recent research shows that stimulating nerve endings within fascia can activate neural pathways to the adrenal glands, leading to the release of anti-inflammatory catecholamines.

Rhinitis

Inflammation of the nasal passages, often characterized by congestion, itching, and reduced sense of smell. It can be a symptom of allergies or infections.

Mast Cells

Immune cells that act as little packets of histamine. When activated by injury or irritants, they release histamine, causing swelling and inflammation, which in turn recruits other immune cells to the site.

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How does the nervous system control the immune system?

The nervous system acts as a set of highways between body tissues, calling the immune system into action and liberating molecules like catecholamines that reduce inflammation and promote healing. This interaction is evident in phenomena like sickness behavior and the effects of mindset.

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What are the three main layers of defense for the immune system?

The three main layers are the physical barriers (skin and mucus linings), the innate immune system (rapid, non-specific response with killer cells and complement proteins), and the adaptive immune system (specific, memory-based response with antibodies).

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Why is nasal breathing important for immunity?

The nasal microbiome is particularly effective at 'scrubbing' bacteria and viruses, and the nose acts as a much better filter for pathogens than the mouth. Consistent nasal breathing helps maintain this protective function.

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Why do we lose appetite when sick, and what is the 'feed a fever, starve a cold' saying about?

Reduced appetite when sick is thought to be a subconscious attempt to reduce iron intake, as many bacteria and infections thrive on high iron levels. 'Feed a fever' makes sense because eating increases body temperature, aiding the body's natural attempt to kill invaders, while 'starve a cold' lacks a clear scientific basis.

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How does a fever help combat infection?

A fever is the body's adaptive response to increase temperature, as many viruses and bacteria do not survive well at elevated heat. It's a functional role, and lowering a fever (unless dangerously high) can limit the body's natural defense.

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How can I enhance my immune system when I first feel sick?

Beyond foundational practices like sleep and hydration, you can try hot showers/saunas (if no fever), cyclic hyperventilation breathing, elevating your feet during sleep to boost glymphatic clearance, and potentially increasing serotonin precursors like 5-HTP (with doctor consultation).

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Can worrying or mindset impact my physical health and immune system?

Yes, worrying can literally make you sick by activating a specific corticolimbic-hypothalamic pathway in the brain, leading to psychogenic fever and illness-like symptoms. Conversely, a sense of hope and activation of the dopamine system can accelerate healing and reduce inflammation.

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What is spirulina, and how can it help with congestion?

Spirulina is a form of algae that has been shown to reduce rhinitis (nasal inflammation and congestion) by inhibiting the formation and activity of histaminergic mast cells, which are responsible for releasing histamine and causing swelling.

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How does acupuncture reduce inflammation?

Recent research shows that electroacupuncture at specific sites (e.g., lower limbs) activates nerve endings in the deep fascial tissue. This triggers a neural pathway to the spinal cord, hindbrain (medulla), and ultimately the adrenal glands, leading to the release of anti-inflammatory catecholamines.

1. Cyclic Hyperventilation for Immunity

Perform 3 rounds of 25-30 deep inhales and exhales through the mouth, followed by an exhale and a breath hold for 15-60 seconds, to increase anti-inflammatory cytokines and reduce pro-inflammatory ones. This behavioral protocol activates the sympathetic nervous system and releases adrenaline, enhancing the immune response and reducing flu-like symptoms. (Caution: Do not practice near water or while driving; breathe when the impulse arises).

2. Cultivate Hope for Healing

Actively engage in thinking about a positive future, as this activates the dopamine reward pathway, which can reduce tumor size, accelerate wound healing, and quicken recovery from illness and injury.

3. Elevate Feet for Glymphatic Clearance

During sleep or deep relaxation, elevate your feet by about 12 degrees (e.g., with pillows) to enhance the glymphatic system’s washout of debris from the brain. This increased clearance is crucial for recovery from infection and injury.

4. Early Illness Heat Exposure

At the initial stage of an infection (without a fever), engage in a 15-minute sauna session or a very hot bath/shower to increase white blood cell profiles and adjust cortisol levels beneficially. For maximal effects, alternate 15 minutes of heating with 5-10 minutes of cooling to force repeated pulses of cortisol-lowering and white cell-stimulating signals. (Caution: Do not use if already running a fever, as it could lead to dangerously high body temperatures).

5. Consume Fermented Foods Daily

Ingest two to four servings of low-sugar fermented foods daily (e.g., sauerkraut, kimchi) to maintain a healthy gut microbiome. A healthy microbiome reduces inflammatory cytokines and strengthens the mucus lining defense against pathogens.

6. Prioritize Nasal Breathing

Whenever possible, breathe through your nose instead of your mouth, as the nose acts as a superior filter for viruses and bacteria. Nasal breathing also helps dilate sinuses, enhancing this protective function.

7. Practice Strict Hand-Eye Hygiene

Avoid touching your eyes, especially after touching other people or surfaces, because the eyes are a primary entry point for many bacteria and viruses.

8. Allow Functional Fevers

Avoid immediately lowering a fever with drugs unless body temperature reaches dangerously high levels, as fever is the body’s natural adaptive response to heat up and kill off invaders. Eating during a fever can further increase body temperature through the thermogenic effect of food.

9. Augment Dopamine for Recovery

To potentially accelerate healing and recovery from injury, consider behavioral methods like 3-10 minutes of uncomfortable cold water exposure (which can double dopamine levels for several hours). Alternatively, after consulting a doctor, supplements like L-tyrosine (500-750mg) or Mucuna Pruriens can be explored as dopamine precursors. (Caution: Not recommended for individuals with bipolar disorder, mania, or schizophrenia).

10. Serotonin for Sickness Sleep

If experiencing early illness, and after consulting a doctor, consider taking 300-500mg of 5-HTP 30-60 minutes before sleep to enhance a specific quality of sleep associated with a robust immune response. (Caution: Not for regular use, as it can disrupt normal sleep architecture; always consult a doctor).

11. Spirulina for Congestion Relief

Take two grams of spirulina to reduce symptoms of rhinitis (nasal congestion and inflammation), as it can inhibit the formation and activity of histamine-releasing mast cells. (Caution: Not for individuals with a genetic mutation leading to PKU; consult a doctor).

12. Foundational Health Practices

Ensure adequate, high-quality, consistent sleep (80-90% of the time), get morning and evening sunlight, engage in 150-180 minutes of Zone 2 cardio weekly, eat well by avoiding processed foods, maintain social connections, and stay properly hydrated. These practices form the bedrock of overall mental and physical health.

About 10, 20 years ago, if somebody said that the mind could control the immune system, it'd probably get laughed out of most academic conferences, and certainly the work wouldn't be published in quality journals. But nowadays, there are dozens, if not hundreds, of quality peer-reviewed studies on how the mind and how the nervous system can control activation of the immune system.

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The more you learn about mucus, the more you realize that mucus is really, really cool. Because mucus essentially acts as a filter, as a trap for bacteria and viruses, and it has certain ways of scrubbing or killing those bacteria and viruses.

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If you've ever noticed when you wake up in the morning, you have some sleep in your eyes, either the kind of crusty stuff in the corners of your eyes or on your eyelashes, that sleep, that crust are actually dead bacteria that you've successfully battled during the night.

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You can't really shift the alkalinity of your body. There are cases where some compartment in your body needs to be more alkaline than the rest. Your gut is a different alkalinity than other areas of your body, et cetera, but ingesting high alkaline water isn't going to shift your overall alkalinity.

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Most of us are aware that yes, indeed, you can worry yourself sick. We've been told that. You're going to worry yourself sick.

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The most exciting thing to me about all this is that practices that traditionally have been shrouded in complicated language or were the unique domain of the practitioners and relied on phrases like the meridians or the chakras, of which I think is perfectly valid language but doesn't inform mechanism. And then, in a separate community, the community I come from, the community of scientists, have used language like our two neurons, medulla oblongata, vagal adrenal axis, and basically, no one can communicate with one another because the language is shrouding. What we're now starting to see is that at their convergence is a common mechanism.

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Glymphatic Clearance Enhancement Protocol

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  1. Elevate your heels by about 12 degrees while sleeping by placing a rolled pillow or two pillows underneath your feet, keeping your head below your legs.
  2. Alternatively, use self-hypnosis or deep relaxation scripts (e.g., Reveri app) with feet elevated during waking hours or naps to increase glymphatic system activity.

Immune-Activating Cyclic Hyperventilation Protocol

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  1. Perform 20 to 30 deep inhales and exhales through the mouth.
  2. Exhale all air and hold your breath with lungs empty for 15 to 60 seconds, or until you feel the impulse to breathe.
  3. Repeat steps 1 and 2 for three to four rounds.
  4. Avoid doing this near water or while driving a car due to potential for blacking out.

Rhinitis/Allergy Symptom Relief Protocol (Spirulina)

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  1. Ingest 2 grams of spirulina.
  2. Continue for a short while until effects kick in (e.g., reduction in nasal obstruction, improved smell, reduced itching).
  3. Note: Individuals with PKU (phenylketonuria) should avoid spirulina.
150 to 180 minutes
Zone Two Cardio Duration Per week, where one can just barely hold a conversation.
2 to 4 servings
Fermented Foods Intake Per day, of low-sugar fermented foods to enhance gut microbiome and mucus lining.
~8 milligrams
Recommended Daily Iron Intake (Men) Typical recommendation.
18 to 27 milligrams
Recommended Daily Iron Intake (Women) Varies depending on pregnancy, lactation, or menstruation.
Over 45 milligrams
Toxic Iron Level Per day, can be very toxic to the system.
~12 degrees
Foot Elevation for Glymphatic Clearance Elevating heels during sleep by placing pillows underneath feet to increase glymphatic washout.
300 to 500 milligrams
5-HTP Dosage (for potential immune-related sleep) Taken 30-60 minutes before sleep, potentially to augment serotonin system for specific sleep states during illness (consult doctor).
96 degrees
Sauna Temperature in Study Temperature used in a study that showed increased white blood cell profiles and adjusted cortisol.
15 +/- 3%
Sauna Humidity in Study Humidity level in the study showing immune benefits.
15 minutes
Sauna Session Duration in Study A single session increased white blood cell profiles and adjusted cortisol.
20 to 30
Cyclic Hyperventilation Breaths per Round Deep inhales and exhales through the mouth.
15 to 60 seconds
Cyclic Hyperventilation Breath Hold Duration With lungs empty, after exhaling all air.
7.4 to 7.6
pH Shift during Cyclic Hyperventilation A significant increase in alkalinity, returning to normal afterwards.
500 to 750 milligrams
L-Tyrosine Dosage Can be taken to increase dopamine (a precursor); consult doctor.
3 to 10 minutes
Cold Water Exposure Duration To double or more baseline dopamine and epinephrine levels for several hours.
2 grams
Spirulina Dosage for Rhinitis Taken to reduce nasal congestion and inflammation; effects may take a short while to kick in.